Windows 11

[NDN1984]

Mine won't be running it. I'm happy with Windows 10 anyway so not fussed, and probably won't upgrade this laptop (it's a re-furb and had since 2018) for another 4-5 years as I upgraded the memory and HDD disk.

[jumbler]

Another thing I noticed: I ran the (updated) PC Health Check app on Dad’s laptop, just to see if that could be upgraded. Although it meets all the requirements, it still failed because the processor wasn’t on the list of supported types (see previous pages).

That could be bullshit, though. If your device meets all the criteria, then why does it matter which make, or model it is?? I’d guess you’d be allowed to download and install the product, at least.

[Tiuri]

Another thing I noticed: I ran the (updated) PC Health Check app on Dad’s laptop, just to see if that could be upgraded. Although it meets all the requirements, it still failed because the processor wasn’t on the list of supported types (see previous pages).

That could be bullshit, though. If your device meets all the criteria, then why does it matter which make, or model it is?? I’d guess you’d be allowed to download and install the product, at least.

There's a registry hack going round that you can use to ignore the required processor and install it anyway. MS have said that this might possibly affect future updates though.

[jumbler]

Mine meets spec but I see nothing there that would make me want to upgrade.

Add to that - every Windows version upgrade has always caused numerous unforeseen issues with drivers etc.

No interest in even trying at present.
10s good enough for me.

Just need to wait for a few years, when things calm down and things are good to go

Mine won't be running it. I'm happy with Windows 10 anyway so not fussed, and probably won't upgrade this laptop (it's a re-furb and had since 2018) for another 4-5 years as I upgraded the memory and HDD disk.

It’s funny you should mention that. The issues seem to be the same with macOS too. Even to running patches and security updates for older versions.

You wouldn’t pay good money for a half-arsed car released before it’s been fully road-tested and fixed (or near enough to be usable). So why do we do the opposite with software??

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Another thing I noticed: I ran the (updated) PC Health Check app on Dad’s laptop, just to see if that could be upgraded. Although it meets all the requirements, it still failed because the processor wasn’t on the list of supported types (see previous pages).

That could be bullshit, though. If your device meets all the criteria, then why does it matter which make, or model it is?? I’d guess you’d be allowed to download and install the product, at least.

There's a registry hack going round that you can use to ignore the required processor and install it anyway. MS have said that this might possibly affect future updates though.

That's just plain wrong, limiting consumer choice. Unless MS believe they can identify weaknesses in unsupported processors??

But even that’s too narrow-minded. Security flaws can be spotted all the time, that’s why viruses work so well.

[deegee178]

Mine meets spec but I see nothing there that would make me want to upgrade.

Add to that - every Windows version upgrade has always caused numerous unforeseen issues with drivers etc.

No interest in even trying at present.
10s good enough for me.

Just need to wait for a few years, when things calm down and things are good to go

Mine won't be running it. I'm happy with Windows 10 anyway so not fussed, and probably won't upgrade this laptop (it's a re-furb and had since 2018) for another 4-5 years as I upgraded the memory and HDD disk.

It’s funny you should mention that. The issues seem to be the same with macOS too. Even to running patches and security updates for older versions.

You wouldn’t pay good money for a half-arsed car released before it’s been fully road-tested and fixed (or near enough to be usable). So why do we do the opposite with software??

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Cars are routinely released with known issues on them. Many issues don’t materialise until production of a new model has started and several hundred/thousand have been built. It would simply be too expensive to bring the cars back to the production line especially when the issue is minor. So it’s left until the next time the car visits a workshop for the repair to be carried out (safety related issues would be fixed immediately prior to delivery).

So I guess it’s a similar thing - the software has a flaw that wasn’t initially apparent and its too expensive to halt release to rectify it if the issue isn’t important.

Both of these examples show that products are not perfect upon release - and expecting them to be so is unrealistic. So as Hugh said, best to wait until quality has improved.

[ladsnet]

Unless I'm missing something I don't see any 'killer reason' to upgrade.

When they launched 10, 7 was well past its prime and 8 was shit.

There's nothing wrong with 10. All I can see people gushing over in the reviews I've seen are 'ooo rounded corners' and 'it looks a bit Appley'

[Parsifal]

Sounds to me like this is a good time to have Windows 10 with most(?) of the issues fixed by now with still more updates/fixes coming in the next few years.

[dan999uk]

The processor on my desktop and the processor on my laptop (a new-ish Microsoft Surface) are both incompatible.

Cheers Bill.

[jumbler]

Well, you’ve got 2½ years left, until they finally pull the plug on Windows 10 support.

But the final system update is coming soon (the actual final system release was last November)…

How’s everyone coping with this?? Bought a new machine, or just taking a chance??

Tbf, nothing has changed in the last 2 years since the initial announcement.

[Hugh]

Got a 2nd hand laptop with Windows 11.

Ccustomisation of the Taskbar isn't there. Well I think without going through a registry or something without the tech skills

[MintyRox]

Got a 2nd hand laptop with Windows 11.

Ccustomisation of the Taskbar isn't there. Well I think without going through a registry or something without the tech skills

You can't reposition the taskbar to the top or sides of the screen under W11, only choose whether the start menu is centred or left aligned.

[Hugh]

Never used the taskbar to the sides or the top, just the bottom.
The ungrouping of the icons in the taskbar.

[MintyRox]

Yeah, you can't ungroup the taskbar icons either. Personally I prefer them grouped anyway, but StartAllBack is what most recommend if you wish to return older UI elements to W11. Think it's about a fiver.

[Hugh]

Yeah, the lack of doing some decent personalisation within W11 isn't good.

The combining icons, and making the taskbar smaller.