Windows 11

[jumbler]

Just got it out the box… OMG, it’s so quiet!! You can hardly tell it’s there.

But the big screen was definitely the way to go. Just looks right with it.

[Ollie2UK]

Are Chromebooks good? An off putting thing is that they are mainly online, keep things in the Cloud.

Looks like I need to save up some money to get a new laptop.

Windows 10 has until 2025 before it becomes like Windows 7

Don't see why that's off-putting? Storing everything on the Cloud means the machine is ridiculously fast. Boots up in under 10 seconds, runs like a dream - better than any Windows PC I've ever owned. I've had my Chromebook for a year now and it's still as fast as the first day I switched it on,

If you're worried about storing stuff online, you can always have a few USB sticks with your documents/pics/porn etc on

And, as there are even less Chromebook owners than Mac owners, there are no virus issues whatsoever.

I should totally get a job with Google for this

[jumbler]

Did you have much to learn, mate?? I’m finding MacOS is a bit more different than how I expected it to be. A bit like learning another language.

But we’ll get there. Although the install was smooth as silk… I still can’t connect my printer. I’ve got enough USB leads already, but they still aren’t compatible.

Printer uses a USB-B to A lead, but that needs to plug into some sort of extension. So it needs a female connector, and all the ones I’ve got are male…

Funny that.

[Ollie2UK]

Nothing to learn really - it's really intuitive and very similar to the Windows layout. If you own a smartphone I'd guess it'd be even easier as a lot of the functionality is app based.

I literally turned it on and used it. You pick up a few things as you go, but there's nothing confusing or difficult about any of it.

[jumbler]

Weirdest things I’ve found so far.

1: There is no default MacOS keyboard shortcut for either Restart, or Sleep. You have to make your own…

(I use keyboard shortcuts a lot!!)

2: McAfee LiveSafe installed perfectly fine, but would NOT activate security features - because Apple blocked them.

I’m noticing this quite a bit with HP, too. Manufacturer’s support software is designed to look for problems, but to do this it needs access to system preferences and settings (and hard drive access), and the system just doesn’t want to let them do that.

All sorted now though.

[Hugh]

Don't see why that's off-putting? Storing everything on the Cloud means the machine is ridiculously fast. Boots up in under 10 seconds, runs like a dream - better than any Windows PC I've ever owned. I've had my Chromebook for a year now and it's still as fast as the first day I switched it on,

If you're worried about storing stuff online, you can always have a few USB sticks with your documents/pics/porn etc on

And, as there are even less Chromebook owners than Mac owners, there are no virus issues whatsoever.

I should totally get a job with Google for this
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It's just need to get used to having stuff stored online, in the same way that I have a HDD, memory stick and a couple of SD Cards.
Guess that Chromebook or any laptop that's like a Chromebook is like a mobile phone, but with the keyboard and screen being separate. Two separate from each other.

[jumbler]

It’s not that hard to get used to. I’ve basically done it the last 20 years or so.

I’ve privately hosted my own e-mail server and domain since then. Means my e-mails hang around wherever I go, or which provider I use.

[Hugh]

I know it won't be hard to used to it, just need to have the Chromebook to use.

[jumbler]

So after a week or so, everything’s going good. But I’ve only just discovered that most of the iOS apps I’ve got just won’t work on macOS. Even though Mac (mini)s are now sold as “being able to run the same apps” (as on iPhones).

It’s a bit dumb when you can usually download iOS apps on your iPad, and they work perfectly normally. Could do with basic apps like iPlayer, BBC Sounds and so on.

Still, it’s not the end of the world. Definitely won’t go back.

[ladsnet]

We wouldn't have you back :

Its like Brexit.
You made your bed. Lie in it.

[jumbler]

It is, actually. I came to the same conclusion.

[jumbler]

So now it’s here, how many people have tried to upgrade?? And figured out it either won’t work with the current PC/laptop, or decided to buy a new model instead??

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Coincidentally, I had an unrelated issue at work, but underlines what could happen if something goes wrong. Our network requires TPM (security) modules (which Windows 11 uses), to log in to the One Drive and Outlook accounts (Windows updates are centrally managed).

The desktop on the desk I was moved to recently threw a massive strop and the TPM’s stopped working. I just could not log into Outlook, or parts of the network until the PC was replaced.

It figures if your PC had a similar problem, you would not even be able to load Windows until you’d fixed the fault yourself.

[Hugh]

I've got “This PC doesn’t currently meet all the system requirements for Windows 11” on the Windows Update page.
Must support Secure Boot. And the something with the processor.

Either I save the money up, wait for a few years and get a second hand laptop that can have Windows 11, or maybe wait for a Windows 11 version that my laptop can handle and install that

[jumbler]

I think you’ll be waiting a long time indeed for that…

Haven’t even logged into my PC since I installed the Mac. Pretty much ironed most of the wrinkles out by now.

[Hugh]

Saving or 2nd hand.

Just hope that support for Windows 10 will last for some time.

[jumbler]

It’s supposed to be OK until December 2025. Security Updates will stop then.

[Parsifal]

Best to wait until many of the bugs and kinks have been ironed out.  They're just dumping a beta version on the public.

[Tiuri]

I installed their PC Health app so check and it confirmed what I already knew

[ladsnet]

Mine meets spec but I see nothing there that would make me want to upgrade.

Add to that - every Windows version upgrade has always caused numerous unforeseen issues with drivers etc.

No interest in even trying at present.
10s good enough for me.

[Hugh]

Just need to wait for a few years, when things calm down and things are good to go