American Politics in the post-Trump era

[ladsnet]

How do we think its going?

Surely Trump can't win can he?
(I think I said this last time though)

[Heinrich]

He's trying to discredit the election and dismantle the post office.

[ladsnet]

I wish someone would dismantle the UK Post Office. They're shite.

[Bangle1]

I hate to say it, I think he'll get a second term. I like Kamala Harris but Biden was the wrong pick for the Democrats. Trump is playing to his first term electorate and despite what polling indicates, I can see a swing come time to actually vote. I hope I'm wrong...

[RSL]

american here. i'm genuinely concerned that the actual election results will be biden but this crap about the post office and absentee voting will leave us with another 4 years of trump.

[Heinrich]

Well, LEGALLY, his term ends on January 20th no matter what. Constitutionally, Nancy Pelosi would become interim president. I don't see that going smoothly, but I am certain we'll find out.

[Bangle1]

I don't know why we're even debating. Anyone got contacts they could reach out to in mother Russia? Just ask who Putin's voting for and be done.

[Heinrich]

Putin doesn't care who wins. He just wants us to distrust our government into oblivion.

[Parsifal]

american here. i'm genuinely concerned that the actual election results will be biden but this crap about the post office and absentee voting will leave us with another 4 years of trump.

It's not about another four years of Trump.
If Biden loses in November then we're looking at the prospect of oligarchical misrule with no end.  

I'm convinced that if Trump continues his presidency beyond January 20, 2021 (legitimately or otherwise) then he will seek to repeal the 22nd Amendment which limits a president to two terms.  He's that kind of guy and he may be able to rally support for it (38 states must ratify), that's what America has become.

I still have hopes that he will choke on one of his cheeseburgers or, better yet, have a spectacular fall down the stairs on exiting Airforce One and break his neck.   (It's not nice to wish ill fortune on someone, so think of it as saving America and the world. )

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Putin doesn't care who wins. He just wants us to distrust our government into oblivion.

I think that Putin does want Trump to win, his useful idiot, and is already interfering in the election to achieve that outcome.  He also wants to weaken NATO and Trump is his man.   An interesting wildcard is Xi, who is believed to be pleased if Trump loses.  It's not known if he will interfere in the election though.

[kevvie]

american here. i'm genuinely concerned that the actual election results will be biden but this crap about the post office and absentee voting will leave us with another 4 years of trump.

It's not about another four years of Trump.
If Biden loses in November then we're looking at the prospect of oligarchical misrule with no end.  

I'm convinced that if Trump continues his presidency beyond January 20, 2021 (legitimately or otherwise) then he will seek to repeal the 22nd Amendment which limits a president to two terms.  He's that kind of guy and he may be able to rally support for it (38 states must ratify), that's what America has become.

I still have hopes that he will choke on one of his cheeseburgers or, better yet, have a spectacular fall down the stairs on exiting Airforce One and break his neck.   (It's not nice to wish ill fortune on someone, so think of it as saving America and the world. )

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Putin doesn't care who wins. He just wants us to distrust our government into oblivion.

I think that Putin does want Trump to win, his useful idiot, and is already interfering in the election to achieve that outcome.  He also wants to weaken NATO and Trump is his man.   An interesting wildcard is Xi, who is believed to be pleased if Trump loses.  It's not known if he will interfere in the election though.

I am afraid that Trump has been played by the master spy Putin, and that Russian interference will continue in the election. I think it is both the interest of America and of the world that Trump loses, but he is going to play every card he knows to win and then he will indeed repeal the 22nd. Amendment and go on and on. Until either he dies or we all die. Trump is dangerous. We all need rid.

[Kev]

This "ad" is hitting a bit close to the bone.

[Parsifal]

I think it is both the interest of America and of the world that Trump loses, but he is going to play every card he knows to win steal the election and then he will indeed repeal the 22nd. Amendment

Fixed that for you.

and go on and on. Until either he dies or we all die. Trump is dangerous. We all need rid.

and then there's Ivanka and Donald Jr. ( duh!) and ...  A whole dynasty to rule.

[Parsifal]

If Trump does succeed in corrupting the November election and thus stealing it then I think we can see a repeat in this country of what is currently happening in Belarus where large crowds are protesting to topple Lukashenko who claimed victory in a fraudulent "landslide" election.  (Trump should take note.)

The difference is that protests in the U.S. are likely to be violent while those in Belarus are peaceful.  Progressive groups as well as anti-authoritarian conservative ones are already gearing up for a fight.  They're losing no time with this.  Some of the progressive groups are reported to relish the prospect of violent revolution.  Trump, no doubt, will call to arms his well-armed and militarized base.  How all of this plays out has yet to be seen.  By all accounts, November will not be pretty.

[Kev]

Here's Michelle Obama's speech from the opening night of the Democratic National Convention.

[Pete]

The levels of hysterical bullshit that Trump inspires are hilarious. He's a shit President, but hey, the Democrats were arrogant enough to nominate Clinton so that's what you get. 20th of January, either 2021 or 2025 he will be gone. All this bollocks about changing the constitution or refusing to leave office is hysterical bullshit designed to scare people into voting for Biden who would be the better choice if he weren't half dead and running with Harris.

The USA is too divided for a constitutional amendment to get through congress, let alone be ratified by the states, and if he tried to squat then he would be ejected. He might try legal action if he lost, but the republic survived Al Gore and it will survive Trump.

Just sit back, relax, and envy the alternative reality where Mitt Romney is coming to the end of his second term.

[RSL]

american here. i'm genuinely concerned that the actual election results will be biden but this crap about the post office and absentee voting will leave us with another 4 years of trump.

It's not about another four years of Trump.
If Biden loses in November then we're looking at the prospect of oligarchical misrule with no end.  

I'm convinced that if Trump continues his presidency beyond January 20, 2021 (legitimately or otherwise) then he will seek to repeal the 22nd Amendment which limits a president to two terms.  He's that kind of guy and he may be able to rally support for it (38 states must ratify), that's what America has become.

I still have hopes that he will choke on one of his cheeseburgers or, better yet, have a spectacular fall down the stairs on exiting Airforce One and break his neck.   (It's not nice to wish ill fortune on someone, so think of it as saving America and the world. )

oh, i'm not convinced there is a coming back from the lessons learned about what misconduct the american news and populace will ignore from their leaders. there's no incentive for mcconnell, etc to not keep on acting like... they do. there's no blowback. no consequences. nothing. if you were a selfish, greedy person out for power and money and influence... why would you NOT just keep doing what has been happening for years?

[Parsifal]

there's no incentive for mcconnell, etc to not keep on acting like... they do. there's no blowback. no consequences. nothing.

The good news is that McConnell is up for re-election and he is unpopular in his state of Kentucky.
The bad news is that he's running against a lesbian in the state of Kentucky.  
What are the chances of her winning?  I haven't seen any poll results.
I would love to see the diabolic McConnell lose.  He's even worse than Trump.
Let's hope for the best.

[RSL]

there's no incentive for mcconnell, etc to not keep on acting like... they do. there's no blowback. no consequences. nothing.

The good news is that McConnell is up for re-election and he is unpopular in his state of Kentucky.
The bad news is that he's running against a lesbian in the state of Kentucky.  
What are the chances of her winning?  I haven't seen any poll results.
I would love to see the diabolic McConnell lose.  He's even worse than Trump.
Let's hope for the best.

yeh. i was really rooting for charles booker [and surprised how well he did]. mcgrath is literally running on "mcconnell isn't doing what trump wants and i will" though. :/

[BowMan]

there's no incentive for mcconnell, etc to not keep on acting like... they do. there's no blowback. no consequences. nothing.

The good news is that McConnell is up for re-election and he is unpopular in his state of Kentucky.
The bad news is that he's running against a lesbian in the state of Kentucky.  
What are the chances of her winning?  I haven't seen any poll results.
I would love to see the diabolic McConnell lose.  He's even worse than Trump.
Let's hope for the best.

Amy McGrath is not a lesbian. She's married to a man, and has three kids. She was in the Marines, and she seems pretty fierce (in a good way) to me.

[Parsifal]

there's no incentive for mcconnell, etc to not keep on acting like... they do. there's no blowback. no consequences. nothing.

The good news is that McConnell is up for re-election and he is unpopular in his state of Kentucky.
The bad news is that he's running against a lesbian in the state of Kentucky.  
What are the chances of her winning?  I haven't seen any poll results.
I would love to see the diabolic McConnell lose.  He's even worse than Trump.
Let's hope for the best.

Amy McGrath is not a lesbian. She's married to a man, and has three kids. She was in the Marines, and she seems pretty fierce (in a good way) to me.

Thank you for the correction.  I'm quite sure that I read along the way that she is a lesbian.  Maybe I confused her with someone else.