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(16-07-2021, 08:07 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(16-07-2021, 06:35 PM)summerfever Wrote:
(07-07-2021, 10:23 AM)Morgan11 Wrote: That is exactly what I've been doing. And in no news segment has there been anything about a "Lambda" variant except on a newspaper frontpage four weeks ago. Don't know who you're referring to as "And he's back".

Ignore him Morgan, he spends more time on his own forum trying to inflame than he does posting anything worthwhile. I regularly read updates about the virus on the BBC news and I hadn’t even heard of a new variant let alone knew its name. Perhaps I missed it but it’s hardly headline news unless, it appears, you go looking for it.

The Delta Variant is front page news almost every day over here.

It is here too but I'd not heard of the Lambda variant until today
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(16-07-2021, 11:07 PM)summerfever Wrote:
(16-07-2021, 08:07 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(16-07-2021, 06:35 PM)summerfever Wrote: Ignore him Morgan, he spends more time on his own forum trying to inflame than he does posting anything worthwhile. I regularly read updates about the virus on the BBC news and I hadn’t even heard of a new variant let alone knew its name. Perhaps I missed it but it’s hardly headline news unless, it appears, you go looking for it.

The Delta Variant is front page news almost every day over here.

It is here too but I'd not heard of the Lambda variant until today

Sorry, misunderstood.
I haven't heard about the Lambda variant.
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Quote:The chief of the Tokyo Olympics accepts athletes are "probably very worried", after a Games-related organiser became the first person to test positive for Covid-19 in the athletes' village.

The case, who is now quarantining in a hotel for 14 days, is one of 15 Games-related cases reported on Saturday.

The organiser tested negative upon arrival in Japan before returning a positive test in the village screening.

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And, health secretary Sajid Javid has tested positive for Covid...3 days after he visited Aashna House care home for a photo opportunity. In the middle of a pandemic. With cases soaring.

Truly, this is a Boris Johnson government,  Loon
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Gets the PM out of doing maskless pub photocalls on Monday. As he'll now be self-isolating. On 'Freedom Day'
You couldn't make it up.


Yesterday world leaders reacted in horror to the UKs herd immunity plan.
Today Denmark is the first to effectively ban all Brits (except the Welsh). They won't be the last.
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Los Angeles County on Sunday became the first major county in the U.S. to revert to requiring masks for all people indoors in public spaces.

Meanwhile, the regions of the U.S. with the biggest increases in Covid infections are the same regions with the lowest vaccination rates (think: red states and Trumper anti-vaxers).
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(19-07-2021, 01:56 PM)Parsifal Wrote: Los Angeles County on Sunday became the first major county in the U.S. to revert to requiring masks for all people indoors in public 

So are you saying that the rules can not only differ between states but between counties within states?
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(19-07-2021, 02:32 PM)Welsh Cake Wrote:
(19-07-2021, 01:56 PM)Parsifal Wrote: Los Angeles County on Sunday became the first major county in the U.S. to revert to requiring masks for all people indoors in public 

So are you saying that the rules can not only differ between states but between counties within states?

Yes
For example, earlier in the pandemic Governor Cuomo of NYS had different rules for NYC (5 counties called boroughs) than for the rest of NYS.

Update:
After Los Angeles County reinstated indoor mask requirements, the sheriff said the rules were "not backed by science" and refused to enforce them.
This is typical for the U.S. Rolleyes Loon
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(17-07-2021, 02:16 PM)Ollie2UK Wrote: And, health secretary Sajid Javid has tested positive for Covid...3 days after he visited Aashna House care home for a photo opportunity. In the middle of a pandemic. With cases soaring.

Truly, this is a Boris Johnson government,  Loon
Who has been on official trips, jollies, and awaydays from Downing Street practically all year long?? Yes?? Photo op nearly every day, yes?? Opening this, that, giving speeches about how good Brexit is for us, yes?? Wow Wow Wow

Am seriously bemused that no-one picked up on this. BJ made trips (and photo ops) nearly every single day during the winter, including both lockdowns. It was in all the papers and websites. Because he gave speeches everywhere he went, so it was clearly documented.

Not once did I hear a word of criticism anywhere about that. Despite the fact he was the one who told us to stay home in the first place.

The Prime Minister pretty obviously does not travel alone. He must have two or three cars of people with him, so every single day, every single trip potentially put people at risk.

If you believe the level of risk is really that equal, and high. To everyone, all the time.
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Meanwhile in Minnesota, we're back to life as normal.
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Texas is one whole state where the vast majority of the population would not tolerate a lockdown in the first place, so they never really happened here at all.
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Blimey,

When the American media is having a go at your Covid response, you KNOW you've fucked up,  Disgusted

(from the NY Times)

England Is ‘Free.’ And in Total Chaos.

Quote:England, we are told, is free. On Monday the government lifted the country’s remaining Covid restrictions — on social distancing, on face masks, on numbers for gatherings, the lot — effectively leaving protection from the coronavirus to vaccinations and, er, the goddess of chance. (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, the devolved nations, have sensibly chosen to retain some restrictions.)

The timing was immaculate: Over the previous week, 332,170 people tested positive for the coronavirus — the most since January — as the Delta variant courses around the country. New Covid-19 cases are expected to rise, perhaps reaching the dizzying figure of 100,000 a day later in the summer. The number hospitalized, much lower than in previous waves of infections because of the vaccination program, is steadily increasing. Deaths are creeping up.

Details, details. This was Freedom Day, as the government and the right-wing press insistently reminded us. The time when the English, after more than a year of sacrifices, could let it all out — drink in a crowded room, go clubbing, have everyone over. No need for masks. But really, it was Confusion Day, a monument to chaos, anxiety and the unknown. We have no plan.

Fittingly, Prime Minister Boris Johnson, lover of liberty (especially his own) and architect of the “plan,” couldn’t celebrate; he was self-isolating. He had been in contact with Sajid Javid, the health minister, who was double-vaccinated and tested positive for the coronavirus on Saturday. (The English are discovering, to their alarm, that vaccines are not invincible.) Mr. Javid is new to the job: He was installed last month after the previous health minister, Matt Hancock, was photographed kissing an adviser in his office. He had to resign for breaking social distancing guidelines with his tongue.

Confined to his countryside residence, Mr. Johnson emitted the cracked bonhomie, the halting obfuscation, that is his trademark. The act, successful for a season, is wearing thin. In the first week of July, more than 500,000 people were contacted by the country’s tracking service and told to self-isolate for 10 days, creating chaos for businesses and individuals alike. (The situation has been called a pingdemic, for the sound the alert makes on people’s phones.) Mr. Johnson’s response was to airily excuse some key workers from self-isolating. Nevertheless, he said, “we do need to stick to the system as is” — ignoring the fact that the day before, he himself tried to avoid self-isolation. In Mr. Johnson’s England, after all, yesterday is a lifetime ago.

Perhaps this is a strategy to achieve hybrid immunity, in which the great majority of the population is vaccinated or was recently infected by the coronavirus (or both), by winter — a more up-to-date version of what seemed to be the government’s initial, much-maligned approach to the pandemic. But the government denies it. Instead, ministers insist a third wave of cases is inevitable, so why not have some sunshine along the way?

Or perhaps this is what happens when you elect a charismatic performer with interesting hair and no thought beyond winning the highest office. I used to think the hair fluctuated according to the stock market. Now I think it responds to polling. It is currently big hair to match big polling, with the Conservative lead, against the backdrop of a successful vaccination campaign and an ineffective opposition, stretching to nine percentage points. Whatever the hair means — and it’s terrifying to think we still do not know — we’re likely to have a few more years to scrutinize it.

No matter what Mr. Johnson says, nothing can dispel the sense that we are a country in decline, segueing to crisis. This is clear not just from obvious markers of malaise — like the fact that 30 percent of British children, in the fifth-largest economy in the world, live in poverty — but also from small things. Last week, for example, London filled quite suddenly with water during a rainstorm; some people swam in it happily, despite its possibly being filled with sewage. In Cornwall in southwestern England, a man, the heat perhaps having gone to his head, allegedly beat a sea gull to death with a plastic spade. If you love metaphor, England used to be the spade. Now it is the sea gull.
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LOL
I'm disappointed they never mentioned the man who stuck a flare up his bum.


Said on the radio today that although the government is STILL harping on about our world-beating vaccination programme.... jab rates have tailed off severely now and several EU countries are either catching us or overtaking us for % population vaccinated.


Just a fucking mess.
Even the right wing press are now predicting that many restrictions will be back in force by mid August.
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The CDC and the US State Department are recommending that travelers not travel to the UK.

Meanwhile, suggestions are floating here that that if we're to discourage travelers from going to the UK then we should similarly discourage travel to certain regions of the US e.g. Florida which currently has the highest infection rate in the country and seemingly out of control.
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(21-07-2021, 05:05 PM)Ollie2UK Wrote:
Quote:Perhaps this is a strategy to achieve hybrid immunity, in which the great majority of the population is vaccinated or was recently infected by the coronavirus (or both), by winter — a more up-to-date version of what seemed to be the government’s initial, much-maligned approach to the pandemic. But the government denies it. Instead, ministers insist a third wave of cases is inevitable, so why not have some sunshine along the way?

I'm not convinced that this is a "perhaps" situation.  Broadly speaking (i.e. I'm going to generalise quite wildly here), the majority of visitors to night clubs are under 30, the rate of infection is higher for those under 30 while the rate of vaccination for the under 30s is low.  It seems like a perfect storm for creating herd immunity in the under 30s through infection rather than vaccination.  But then, I am a cynic.
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