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Coronavirus
People can talk about the efficacy of masks 'til they're blue in the face but I know since I started wearing masks last year I haven't had one cold.
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Thoughts? This is the first I've heard of incentives being offered in the UK.

I'm all for it if persaudes hesitant people to get vaccinated...but what will be offered to entice them to get 2nd dose?
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I think we have to accept that we live with a lot of very stupid people in this world. Sad

(06-07-2021, 03:36 PM)Heinrich Wrote: Is mask-wearing still widespread in NYC?

On the street few people are wearing masks as most here are vaccinated (70% I believe)

Most retail establishments have signs stating that a mask is required to enter.

On mass transit everybody (almost) wears a mask.  I believe it's required (I can't keep up on what's "required".)

(06-07-2021, 04:18 PM)cochineal Wrote: Are the masks we use not more effective at stopping the virus spreading outwards from an infectious person rather than stopping it getting in to another person.

Those blue surgical masks.  Yes.

(06-07-2021, 05:13 PM)Kev Wrote: People can talk about the efficacy of masks 'til they're blue in the face but I know since I started wearing masks last year I haven't had one cold.

Haha!!  Same here.  Approve
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(06-07-2021, 05:09 PM)Morgan11 Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 05:00 PM)ladsnet Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 03:59 PM)Morgan11 Wrote: A hefty unpaid fine could lead to a prison stay. May not be Alcatraz but you will be financially punished leading to more severe punishment. And what worser variant are you talking about?

lambda I think they've called it

I've only heard that name once four weeks ago and it hasn't been spoken about since, it's been mostly Delta Delta Delta. Of course it's hard to keep with these pop up shop variants thus paranoid people picking up on an unfamiliar name and running with it as is the case here.


AND he's back !
Try reading the news.
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Quote:On mass transit everybody (almost) wears a mask. I believe it's required (I can't keep up on what's "required".)

Yes, it's required by a Federal mandate. On buses here, they have a box of spare masks that someone can take if they don't have one. At the subway stations, there are employees at the gates that make sure everyone is wearing one plus, they also have spare masks.
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It certainly looks like they're trying the 'herd immunity' thing here again.
Its akin to seeing a car stopped on a level crossing and just having to stand and watch what happens.

Next amusing point will be all the people taking advantage of this return to normal to book foreign holidays with no restrictions, only to find the foreign countries not letting them in anymore because the UK is an unregulated covid farm again.
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(06-07-2021, 10:49 PM)ladsnet Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 05:09 PM)Morgan11 Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 05:00 PM)ladsnet Wrote: lambda I think they've called it

I've only heard that name once four weeks ago and it hasn't been spoken about since, it's been mostly Delta Delta Delta. Of course it's hard to keep with these pop up shop variants thus paranoid people picking up on an unfamiliar name and running with it as is the case here.


AND he's back !
Try reading the news.

That is exactly what I've been doing. And in no news segment has there been anything about a "Lambda" variant except on a newspaper frontpage four weeks ago. Don't know who you're referring to as "And he's back".
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Delta is a “variant of concern” along with Alpha, Beta and Gamma.

Lambda is a “variant of interest” along with Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota and Kappa. Haven’t heard much of these either....
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Well I've just gone on a very popular news website and scrolled down and theres a story about the worrying growth of the lambda variant. Today.

We will see.
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Just do a Google search for Lambda. News results from The Mirror (last hour), Independent (1 day ago), Mail (1 day ago), The Sun (2 days ago), New York Post (1 day ago), Euronews (46 mins ago).

But yeah, it's hardly being mentioned,  Dodgy
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(07-07-2021, 09:59 AM)ladsnet Wrote: Next amusing point will be all the people taking advantage of this return to normal to book foreign holidays with no restrictions, only to find the foreign countries not letting them in anymore because the UK is an unregulated covid farm again.

Either that or being put in quarantine for the first ten days of your 14-day holiday.
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The situation in the Netherlands is looking very familiar but I can’t see BoJo apologising if when things go wrong:

Quote:Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has apologised for "an error of judgement" in scrapping most coronavirus restrictions in the country.

The easing three weeks ago led to infection levels surging to their highest this year as nightlife resumed for large numbers of young people.

Curbs on bars, restaurants and nightclubs were reimposed on Friday.
Previously Mr Rutte had refused to take any blame for the opening up, describing it as a "logical step".

On Saturday, the country's public health institute reported more than 10,000 new Covid cases, the highest number in a single day since December.

But so far this has not translated into a significant increase in hospital admissions, as most of the new cases are among young people.

More than 46% of the Netherlands' adult population - mostly from older age groups - is fully vaccinated. More than 77% have received at least one dose.

Mr Rutte's apology comes as countries across Europe face rising numbers of cases of the Delta variant.

BBC News
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So UK people...

Will you still be wearing a mask in shops etc from Monday ?


I certainly will.
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Once again, the changes on Monday only apply to England, not the UK!
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(13-07-2021, 10:20 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So UK people...

Will you still be wearing a mask in shops etc from Monday ?


I certainly will.

Definitely. Needs to be worn to protect those still vulnerable. It's pretty selfish to refuse because you personally don't think you'll get sick. Plenty won't though and I can see there being lots of kickback from selfish idiots. 

(13-07-2021, 10:29 AM)Welsh Cake Wrote: Once again, the changes on Monday only apply to England, not the UK!

Lol. Welsh and Scottish always eager to show off that they don't have to listen to Bozo. I'm more than a bit jealous.
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I'll carry on wearing one for sure. We shouldn't even be considering dumping masks until the vaccination program is finished at the earliest.

It seems like ministers are starting to take a firmer line on mask-wearing over the last few days, I sense another BJ u-turn coming soon. According to one anonymous cabinet minister  Rolleyes they've only scrapped masks 'cos they thought they wouldn't get any continuation of restrictions through the Commons thanks to the swivel-eyed loons in their own party,  Undecided
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Ugh, more lockdown here in Sydney,
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Looking forward to August 9 and my first dose.
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In the Netherlands we had an R number of 0.48 at the end of May, it's now 2.91 (based on 2-week old data). The highest since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.
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(07-07-2021, 10:23 AM)Morgan11 Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 10:49 PM)ladsnet Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 05:09 PM)Morgan11 Wrote: I've only heard that name once four weeks ago and it hasn't been spoken about since, it's been mostly Delta Delta Delta. Of course it's hard to keep with these pop up shop variants thus paranoid people picking up on an unfamiliar name and running with it as is the case here.


AND he's back !
Try reading the news.

That is exactly what I've been doing. And in no news segment has there been anything about a "Lambda" variant except on a newspaper frontpage four weeks ago. Don't know who you're referring to as "And he's back".

Ignore him Morgan, he spends more time on his own forum trying to inflame than he does posting anything worthwhile. I regularly read updates about the virus on the BBC news and I hadn’t even heard of a new variant let alone knew its name. Perhaps I missed it but it’s hardly headline news unless, it appears, you go looking for it.
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(16-07-2021, 06:35 PM)summerfever Wrote:
(07-07-2021, 10:23 AM)Morgan11 Wrote:
(06-07-2021, 10:49 PM)ladsnet Wrote: AND he's back !
Try reading the news.

That is exactly what I've been doing. And in no news segment has there been anything about a "Lambda" variant except on a newspaper frontpage four weeks ago. Don't know who you're referring to as "And he's back".

Ignore him Morgan, he spends more time on his own forum trying to inflame than he does posting anything worthwhile. I regularly read updates about the virus on the BBC news and I hadn’t even heard of a new variant let alone knew its name. Perhaps I missed it but it’s hardly headline news unless, it appears, you go looking for it.

The Delta Variant is front page news almost every day over here.
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