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England players booed
...for taking the knee
Jdsports, stick to being a random user on a forum your understanding of the world of sports sponsors, obligations and contract fulfilments is pretty dire. You think they're taking the knee to propose to you or something? No, they're doing it as good PR, nothing more nothing less.
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(11-06-2021, 07:01 AM)IJCarter Wrote: Jdsports, stick to being a random user on a forum your understanding of the world of sports sponsors, obligations and contract fulfilments is pretty dire. You think they're taking the knee to propose to you or something? No, they're doing it as good PR, nothing more nothing less.

I’ve already pointed out you’re not even observant of who the signatories are to a player’s contract, moron.
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Maybe its like the freemasons.

All footballers who are millionaires have to sign a secret contract to do whatever they're told to do when playing for their country.
Maybe Nick Griffin is the Grand Poobah. Or Jim Davidson.


So we have Marcus Rashford MBE who tells us that the players are doing this because they want to.
And we have JCarter Esq. who tells us that they are made to do this due to their secret contracts.


Who to believe ?
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(11-06-2021, 07:56 AM)jdcyl Wrote:
(11-06-2021, 07:01 AM)IJCarter Wrote: Jdsports, stick to being a random user on a forum your understanding of the world of sports sponsors, obligations and contract fulfilments is pretty dire. You think they're taking the knee to propose to you or something? No, they're doing it as good PR, nothing more nothing less.

I’ve already pointed out you’re not even observant of who the signatories are to a player’s contract, moron.

Moron. I don't have to be the chairman of Chelsea to know that players sign public image contracts that earn them millions thus them kneeling for a political cause such as BLM that will bring in even more millions and advertising since BLM is seen as a controversial agenda.

 Just because Marcus Rashford says the sky is pink should we believe him too?
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That’s quite a climb down from “players kneel to follow company orders”.

You still haven’t explained what possible logic could there be in Chelsea FC ‘ordering’ Mason Mount to take that knee, but not Billy Gilmour. Chelsea have 17 players in Euro 2020. Did the Chairman just throw darts at a wall randomly to figure out whom to order to do what?
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Scotland have said they will take the kneee during their match against England and that’s it. No more after that.

Croatia also opting out
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That's not a "climb down" maybe you need to concentrate hard on what you're reading. Football sponsors, management companies and football clubs are still companies of which the players follow orders some advisory some not.
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Wow this Millionaire Footballers Freemasons sounds very complicated.
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(11-06-2021, 03:51 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote: Scotland have said they will take the kneee during their match against England and that’s it. No more after that.

Scotland have said they’ll show their opposition to racism in other ways but taking the knee when playing England is also about opposing ignorance.

It’s reasonable for people to question whether taking the knee works without them being racist. They still support the cause. But booing suggests either ignorance of the cause or outright racism - and you can’t tell which one it is on TV!

So Scotland’s approach seems fair to me.
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I'll say it gently but JCarter, as someone who worked in a PL club for a number of years and actually drafted the contracts for players and their image rights' contracts too, I can 100% guarantee that you are incorrect! Not going to insult you, I'm just telling you the facts here.
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So wait a minute here, I'm expected to take your word that you've worked in the Premier League like a gullible idiot, have I got that right? Post your real photo, name, address and LinkedIn profile and contactable mobile and work references or gtfoh.
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(11-06-2021, 09:59 PM)JCarter Wrote: So wait a minute here, I'm expected to take your word that you've worked in the Premier League like a gullible idiot, have I got that right? Post your real photo, name, address and LinkedIn profile and contactable mobile and work references or gtfoh.

You wouldn’t have to take his word for it, if you had even a basic understanding (which you clearly don’t).  It would be unenforceable for any organization to dictate to a player what political stand he takes.  Duh.
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Who said anything about enforcing? The FA wants all its players to endorse the kick it out campaign and unite behind a common cause. Why is this so hard for you comprehend? All companies have expectations that staff are expected to meet. Deal with it. No amount of fake have a go Ronaldo agents on FMF changes that fact.
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Who said anything about enforcing? This moron did...

JCarter:
“Footballers kneel to FOLLOW COMPANY ORDERS WHICH IS STIPULATED INTO THEIR multi million dollar CONTRACTS they're not doing it for purely selfless reasons.”

Or, perhaps, you meant football clubs include clauses in their player contracts which they never intend to be enforceable? What a stupendous legal mind you have!
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No moron when I mentioned "kneel" I didn't mean footballers kneeling to their paymasters I meant the BLM kneeling to appease the messages of equality coming from the FA. Jdsports, we've been having this discussion for what 12 hours? What makes you think I'll take you seriously in this discussion? I know what I'm talking about you don't.
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I must say I'm loving the dunking on JC on multiple fronts here.
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(11-06-2021, 10:52 PM)JCarter Wrote: No moron when I mentioned "kneel" I didn't mean footballers kneeling to their paymasters I meant the BLM kneeling to appease the messages of equality coming from the FA. Jdsports, we've been having this discussion for what 12 hours? What makes you think I'll take you seriously in this discussion? I know what I'm talking about you don't.

Oh, I don’t care whether you take me seriously.  I just give you enough rope to hang yourself over and over and over again.  Fun!
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What no pianos available for you to pounce on, Heinrich? If that's your version of a good dunking  LOL lol. I don't need stereotypes like you thinking you know anything about what goes on in sports, so you can take a seat Heinrich. I'm sure when I need to talk about Iggy Pop you'll be the first person I go to.
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No idea.
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I think he's Definitely Not Mad And Indeed Laughing, Actually.
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