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Naomi Osaka + Press conferences
#21
How about Naomi retires on her $15 million. Feeding the miserable cow more of an already obscene amount of money to say "yeah like my opponent was tough you know like" in front of reporters is already child abuse to her and her idiot supporters. Piers is a moron.
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#22
(01-06-2021, 10:57 PM)ladsnet Wrote: Hows about paying them extra for the interviews?
Then if they don't want to do em.. they don't get the bonus $$$

It's about whatever they put in the contract and both sides sign to it.

(01-06-2021, 11:05 PM)JCarter Wrote: How about Naomi retires on her $15 million.

$15 million is small change these days.  She's just getting started.
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#23
(01-06-2021, 11:28 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 10:57 PM)ladsnet Wrote: Hows about paying them extra for the interviews?
Then if they don't want to do em.. they don't get the bonus $$$

It's about whatever they put in the contract and both sides sign to it.

(01-06-2021, 11:05 PM)JCarter Wrote: How about Naomi retires on her $15 million.

$15 million is small change these days.  She's just getting started.
It's not small change. You have no understanding of money or how to invest it. Lol. The average mansion is $5 million.
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#24
(01-06-2021, 11:32 PM)JCarter Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 11:28 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 10:57 PM)ladsnet Wrote: Hows about paying them extra for the interviews?
Then if they don't want to do em.. they don't get the bonus $$$

It's about whatever they put in the contract and both sides sign to it.

(01-06-2021, 11:05 PM)JCarter Wrote: How about Naomi retires on her $15 million.

$15 million is small change these days.  She's just getting started.
It's not small change. You have no understanding of money or how to invest it. Lol. The average mansion is $5 million.

In NYC you can buy a 3-bedroom apartment for $15 million.  A duplex on a (very) high floor could run you $90 million.

I don't know how much athletes are paid (although I read that Lionel Messi was paid $126 million last year), but I would guess that for a high-profile sport like tennis then $15 million is entry-level money.
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#25
(01-06-2021, 11:41 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 11:32 PM)JCarter Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 11:28 PM)Parsifal Wrote: It's about whatever they put in the contract and both sides sign to it.


$15 million is small change these days.  She's just getting started.
It's not small change. You have no understanding of money or how to invest it. Lol. The average mansion is $5 million.

In NYC you can buy a 3-bedroom apartment for $15 million.  A duplex on a (very) high floor could run you $90 million.

I don't know how much athletes are paid (although I read that Lionel Messi was paid $126 million last year), but I would guess that for a high-profile sport like tennis then $15 million is entry-level money.

$15 million that she has made in tennis not including endorsement money she also earns on top of that is enough for her to retire on for the rest of her life. Stop trying to find excuses for her it's tedious.
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#26
(01-06-2021, 11:53 PM)JCarter Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 11:41 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 11:32 PM)JCarter Wrote: It's not small change. You have no understanding of money or how to invest it. Lol. The average mansion is $5 million.

In NYC you can buy a 3-bedroom apartment for $15 million.  A duplex on a (very) high floor could run you $90 million.

I don't know how much athletes are paid (although I read that Lionel Messi was paid $126 million last year), but I would guess that for a high-profile sport like tennis then $15 million is entry-level money.

$15 million that she has made in tennis not including endorsement money she also earns on top of that is enough for her to retire on for the rest of her life. Stop trying to find excuses for her it's tedious.

I'm not making excuses for her in any shape or form.
Rather, I'm commenting on your assessment of what $15 million can buy.
Sure, you and I would be very happy to retire on that amount.  Some people have higher goals.  (I haven't a clue about what Naomi thinks of $15 million and couldn't care less.)
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#27
(01-06-2021, 08:47 PM)JCarter Wrote: Whether they do or don't even if it's just a formality Naomi must still go through with those formalities or she can quit. Naomi is getting millions I'm not sure why you lot are trying to help this girl out of some minor harmless duties out of a lucrative dream job.
It’s called showing empathy and compassion. Life is not black and white and mental health is a clear example of this. Having a mental health issue does not mean someone cannot function all the time and having understanding from others helps at the times when it’s needed.

The initial reaction from the world of tennis has now been reversed and the Grand Slams have pledged to help (see here) which is a good start.
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#28
(02-06-2021, 07:09 AM)deegee178 Wrote:
(01-06-2021, 08:47 PM)JCarter Wrote: Whether they do or don't even if it's just a formality Naomi must still go through with those formalities or she can quit. Naomi is getting millions I'm not sure why you lot are trying to help this girl out of some minor harmless duties out of a lucrative dream job.
It’s called showing empathy and compassion. Life is not black and white and mental health is a clear example of this. Having a mental health issue does not mean someone cannot function all the time and having understanding from others helps at the times when it’s needed.

The initial reaction from the world of tennis has now been reversed and the Grand Slams have pledged to help (see here) which is a good start.
I don't need the link that's why I have news alerts and already watch tennis. I've also showed empathy and compassion for Naomi by recommending she retire and live a happy satisfied life playing tennis at home because she has already won her grand slams too, I know my alternative doesn't include tens of millions of dollars in endorsements for Naomi in the future, but that's the best I can do on short notice.
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#29
Just as you don’t need deegee’s link, JCarter, you don’t need to tell us of your “empathy and compassion” for Osaka. We already know of it from you referring to “feeding the miserable cow...”
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#30
I'm curious, if say Andy Murray, was to announce that he was having mental health issues and would like to stop taking part in post match interviews. Would people have the same opinion that he should pack it in?
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#31
(02-06-2021, 11:01 AM)Bangle1 Wrote: I'm curious, if say Andy Murray, was to announce that he was having mental health issues and would like to stop taking part in post match interviews. Would people have the same opinion that he should pack it in?

This isn’t a gender or race issue, if you can’t fulfil all requirements of the job then don’t sign up. Take time off and go get the help you need.
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#32
She's paying a fine and withdrew from the Open. I think that's what you negative nancies are saying you wanted her to do.

Ryan Garcia recently withdrew from an actual booked fight for mental health reasons and nobody's posting about him.
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#33
Ryan Garcia? You mean the boxer paid to have his brain bashed in complaining about mental health. That's what you want to contribute to this conversation?
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#34
(02-06-2021, 11:06 AM)RyCamp88 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:01 AM)Bangle1 Wrote: I'm curious, if say Andy Murray, was to announce that he was having mental health issues and would like to stop taking part in post match interviews. Would people have the same opinion that he should pack it in?

This isn’t a gender or race issue, if you can’t fulfil all requirements of the job then don’t sign up. Take time off and go get the help you need.

I actually wasn't making it either a gender or a race issue, interestingly that's what you chose to infer from it. I was referring to someone long established who had been at the top of their game. Should they get special consideration?
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#35
(02-06-2021, 01:10 PM)Bangle1 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:06 AM)RyCamp88 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:01 AM)Bangle1 Wrote: I'm curious, if say Andy Murray, was to announce that he was having mental health issues and would like to stop taking part in post match interviews. Would people have the same opinion that he should pack it in?

This isn’t a gender or race issue, if you can’t fulfil all requirements of the job then don’t sign up. Take time off and go get the help you need.

I actually wasn't making it either a gender or a race issue, interestingly that's what you chose to infer from it. I was referring to someone long established who had been at the top of their game. Should they get special consideration?

Interesting that you choice a white British male as an example. To answer the question nobody gets special treatment, which is what she has come to learn.
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#36
But he'd get a different reaction from the media.

If Murray did the same, I doubt whether the Mail & friends would be calling him a snowflake. They'd be demanding Wimbledon dropped the mandatory press conference so that he could enter and win again.
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#37
(02-06-2021, 01:15 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 01:10 PM)Bangle1 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:06 AM)RyCamp88 Wrote: This isn’t a gender or race issue, if you can’t fulfil all requirements of the job then don’t sign up. Take time off and go get the help you need.

I actually wasn't making it either a gender or a race issue, interestingly that's what you chose to infer from it. I was referring to someone long established who had been at the top of their game. Should they get special consideration?

Interesting that you choice a white British male as an example. To answer the question nobody gets special treatment, which is what she has come to learn.

As someone who's Scottish, why wouldn't I choose Andy Murray as an example? My point stands. I believe he would receive a completely different reaction from the public and media.
In part due to tenure, in part due to his past success. Why should someone starting out not be afforded the same understanding? As a society, we are supposed to be more understanding of mental health problems, I see very little evidence of it in this thread.
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#38
(02-06-2021, 01:45 PM)Bangle1 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 01:15 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 01:10 PM)Bangle1 Wrote: I actually wasn't making it either a gender or a race issue, interestingly that's what you chose to infer from it. I was referring to someone long established who had been at the top of their game. Should they get special consideration?

Interesting that you choice a white British male as an example. To answer the question nobody gets special treatment, which is what she has come to learn.

As someone who's Scottish, why wouldn't I choose Andy Murray as an example? My point stands. I believe he would receive a completely different reaction from the public and media.
In part due to tenure, in part due to his past success. Why should someone starting out not be afforded the same understanding? As a society, we are supposed to be more understanding of mental health problems, I see very little evidence of it in this thread.

As a society we should be more understanding of those with real mental health problems especially during this pandemic. A tennis player has the money to pay for therapy and the financial freedom to walk away from her tennis or media commitments, I have to say that I find it revolting that people on this thread think that a privileged tennis player has ownership over what is a real mental health emergency and what isn't. If you're going to promote mental health then for fucks sakes find someone relatable because Naomi just isn't your girl for the job.
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#39
Someone’s job/career, or their status in life, does not determine whether it is a mental health issue or not. And saying things like “they can walk away” (as well “they should stick to their contract”, which others have advocated) shows a complete lack of understanding of mental health issues, the impact on individuals and the help that is available. Having a mental health issue is not black or white, there are many shades of grey.
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#40
(02-06-2021, 02:23 PM)JCarter Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 01:45 PM)Bangle1 Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 01:15 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote: Interesting that you choice a white British male as an example. To answer the question nobody gets special treatment, which is what she has come to learn.

As someone who's Scottish, why wouldn't I choose Andy Murray as an example? My point stands. I believe he would receive a completely different reaction from the public and media.
In part due to tenure, in part due to his past success. Why should someone starting out not be afforded the same understanding? As a society, we are supposed to be more understanding of mental health problems, I see very little evidence of it in this thread.

As a society we should be more understanding of those with real mental health problems especially during this pandemic. A tennis player has the money to pay for therapy and the financial freedom to walk away from her tennis or media commitments, I have to say that I find it revolting that people on this thread think that a privileged tennis player has ownership over what is a real mental health emergency and what isn't. If you're going to promote mental health then for fucks sakes find someone relatable because Naomi just isn't your girl for the job.

You do realise that mental health doesn't discriminate in terms of wealth? Not all mental health issues can be managed or cured. A person has declared a mental health problem, she should receive the same understanding as anyone else, regardless of wealth, race, gender, likeability. Nobody is making her the poster-child for anything, simply noting that she has declared a mental health problem. If she were to be working a 9-5 in an office and declare a need for special consideration, she would be afforded it.
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