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Harry and his missus
#1
What are FMFer's views on this pair? Have they been horribly abused by the Royal Family? Or are they just opportunists self promoting?

I'm no fan of 'the firm', but they way he is airing all the family's secrets seems a wrong move to me. I'm curious to take the temperature from you lot.
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#2
Royal family fans are absolute nutters if an LA brainwashed prince having a mental breakdown is the worst thing that could happen to their reputation than their fans need therapy. For the past weeks on social media I've been reading cries from the plebs such as "why is Harry doing this to his grandmother help me!!" Or "why is Harry a big Mcmeanie to daddy Charles" oh god. Covid has been really kind to these saddos. I don't care about Harry but if he's making the royals sweat for a change then good for him.
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#3
The answer the OP.  I definitely have sympathy for him, as the way the Royal Family treat their emotions is so odd.  I read in the guardian today by Marina Hyde that when the Queen returned after 6 months of not seeing her kids on an official tour, Charles was ordered to simply wait in line and curtsy then shake her hand!  Plus the British press are hypocritical vultures who turned on his mother and he feared the same.
However I don't like Harry saying he wants to leave public life then giving interviews every week about how everything is terrible and how we all have to change.  A bit woke and lecturing from his LA mansion I don't like.
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#4
From what I've read, I understand that one of the main issues that Harry is so angry about is the media attention that comes with the institution (together with the fact that it led to his mother's death).  Also the "neglect" from the royal family.

It seems to me that the solution to media attention is quite simple.  Be boring.  That family is so scandal ridden.  What do they expect?
Why do we never hear anything about the Swedish royal family or the Danish royal family (except for when Crown Prince Frederik gets his tool out and pisses over the side of the yacht)?  The Norwegian royal family?

Be boring and the papps will go elsewhere (the Monaco royals always good for a papp's zoom lens in the sunny Mediterranean).
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#5
Diana's kids are boring and we still care.
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#6
Harry was the bad boy of the family until the military straightened him out.
But the whole scandal-ridden family draws attention to everyone in it.
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#7
I have no time at all for the Royal Family but we all know why Harry & Meghan got such a kicking from the media right?  Confused

I mean, his uncle is a potential paedophile & he gets less shit than Harry...
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#8
I read a comment somewhere else which I felt summed it up quite well:
'How many more shock or Hollywood interviews are Harry and Meghan going to give before they get the privacy and lack of media attention they so desperately crave?'

I really am not a royalist in any way, but all of this has really lowered my opinion of Harry. There's being pissed at the family but there is a whole new level to air it all in public, seemingly for Harry and Meghan's own gain.
Harry has made it clear he wants little or nothing to do with the royal family so why does he feel it necessary to stick his nose in with their affairs? Now the new revealations about his Mum's interview have surfaced, he's still managed to turn it into something about himself (how HE dealt with things), rather than just saying I'd like to keep my opinions between myself and my loved ones.

He won't struggle in life nor will his children and he's got what he wanted (separation from the Family) so why is he still commenting on every aspect of the Royal Family and sticking his oar in? Why won't he go off and do his charity work in private like he insisted he wanted?
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#9
Publicity = $$$
Wink
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#10
Never very interested in that family soap, but good for them on getting out and earning a living. Hope they’re happier than the rest of their dim clan.
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(24-05-2021, 11:49 AM)Joe Rimbaud Wrote: Never very interested in that family soap, but good for them on getting out and earning a living.

Have they really gotten out??? They appear to be making a living by talking about them
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#12
(24-05-2021, 03:04 PM)Tiuri Wrote:
(24-05-2021, 11:49 AM)Joe Rimbaud Wrote: Never very interested in that family soap, but good for them on getting out and earning a living.

Have they really gotten out??? They appear to be making a living by talking about them

LOL
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#13
(22-05-2021, 12:31 PM)Ollie2UK Wrote: I have no time at all for the Royal Family but we all know why Harry & Meghan got such a kicking from the media right?  Confused

I mean, his uncle is a potential paedophile & he gets less shit than Harry...
And there hasn’t even been any calls for Andrew to have his titles removed, unlike Harry.

I would suggest (being associated with people who’ve been) abusing kids is far, far, far worse than just giving interviews about how much you hate being a part of the royal institution and want to move away from it.

Even if you accept he’s still innocent (Andrew) unless proved otherwise.

What exactly has Harry done that’s wrong?? None of the detractors can ever manage to point that out. He’s not done anything criminal, or even offended outdated moral standards (like getting divorced).

Mind you, if this was Thailand, he probably would’ve been excluded from the Royal Family by now…

(22-05-2021, 04:38 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Diana's kids are boring and we still care.
Hmmmmm, yeah. There’s a nasty sort of trope in the media here. Whenever there’s a look back on tv items at the royals (and particularly when Diana’s shown in archive footage), Harry and William are always shown as young kids. They’re like infantilised, put on a pedestal, frozen in time. Presumably when they were more innocent and compliant.

That’s not sending out a great message about how we relate to the royal family, and for building positive, assertive images of them. They’re literally being expected to follow in their parent’s footsteps.
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#14
(25-05-2021, 09:20 PM)jumbler Wrote: What exactly has Harry done that’s wrong??

Please correct me if I've got this wrong, but it's my impression that the British monarchy is on unstable ground and any wrong moves could cause it to topple.

Harry's crime is that he's noisy.
Andrew's crime gets swept under the rug with hopes that people will forget about it.
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#15
But we swept away all that Harry getting naked in LA with poker ho’s, didn’t we?? Mind you, that was in 2012, so a while ago now.

This is more about saving face, I think.
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#16
(25-05-2021, 10:36 PM)jumbler Wrote: This is more about saving face, I think.

And saving the monarchy?
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#17
It’s looking like it will be slipping away at some point. As soon as this year for the Bahamas.

Other countries may follow. They were really in it for Liz and Phil. They held them up as role models (and to be fair, they were).
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#18
I was talking about saving the monarchy in the U.K. Wink

How strong are the republicans in the U.K.?
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#19
Not terribly strong. I figure there’ll be more of a ripple effect when they see countries across the Commonwealth doing their own thing. Scotland is an unknown factor. Would be interesting to see what happens there.

I think if you had a popularly elected President, though, you’d be better off if candidates were not allowed to campaign along party political lines. Even if they’re backed by xyz.
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#20
I don't understand.  Of course candidates are going to campaign along their own party political line.  How else?  If they don't toe the line then they won't get support from their own party.

As for popularly electing the president, one of the several arguments against it is that candidates would campaign only in urban areas where they can reach the most voters.
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