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Prince Philip has died aged 99
#41
If he was Greek and Danish where did the name Battenberg come from?
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#42
(10-04-2021, 03:39 PM)Parsifal Wrote: If he was Greek and Danish where did the name Battenberg come from?

The cake ??? Wink
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#43
Please tell me you're being deliberately obtuse, Parsi.
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(10-04-2021, 04:45 PM)Heinrich Wrote: Please tell me you're being deliberately obtuse, Parsi.

Nope, just deliberately too lazy to check.  I read it once and have forgotten.
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#45
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battenberg_family

Prince Alexander (1823–1888) was the third son of Grand Duke Louis II of Hesse and by Rhine and of Wilhelmina of Baden, yet it was openly rumoured that his biological father was actually Baron Augustus de Senarclens, his mother's chamberlain.[1] His spouse, Julia von Hauke (1825–1895), was a mere Countess, the orphaned daughter of Count von Hauke, a Polish nobleman of German ancestry who had served as a General in the Imperial Russian Army and then as Deputy Minister of War of Congress Poland. Hauke’s rank was too low for his daughter's children to qualify for the succession to the throne of the Grand Duchy of Hesse. For this reason, her new brother-in-law Louis III of Hesse created the title of Countess of Battenberg (German: Gräfin von Battenberg) for her and for the couple's descendants. In 1858, the title, which referred to the town of Battenberg, Hesse, was elevated to princely status. There was never a corresponding Principality of Battenberg; the title was a non-sovereign one in the nobility of the Grand Duchy of Hesse. A previous family of counts of Battenberg had become extinct in the 14th century
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#46
Very few of the Royals are from the country they rule. Marie Antoinette was Austrian, Catherine the Great was German, one of the Kings George was also German and spoke no English at all. Kaiser Wilhelm was half English. Greece, if I remember correctly, was ruled mostly by Hapsburgs or Hohenzollerns or something.
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#47
OK, I checked.
Mommy was Princess Alice of Battenberg who married Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark.
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(10-04-2021, 05:59 PM)Heinrich Wrote: one of the Kings George was also German and spoke no English at all.

Could that have been Victoria's father?  (too lazy to check)
I once read that Queen Victoria spoke German better than English.
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#48
I wanna say it was George III?

*Nope, George II. Spoke only French at first and was taught German.
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#49
I read earlier that Philip's family was not Greek but rather descended from a royal Danish house that the European powers had put on the throne of Greece in the 19th century.  He was sixth in line to the Greek throne but never learned the Greek language.  His first language was English.
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#50
I cannot possibly imagine Philip speaking anything but English.
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#51
I cannot believe two Americans are more worried about this than all the Brits here.
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#52
Some people have more than a myopic view of the world.
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#53
Oh girls, no need to get sassy. We're all friends here.
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(10-04-2021, 05:59 PM)Heinrich Wrote: Very few of the Royals are from the country they rule. Marie Antoinette was Austrian, Catherine the Great was German, one of the Kings George was also German and spoke no English at all. Kaiser Wilhelm was half English. Greece, if I remember correctly, was ruled mostly by Hapsburgs or Hohenzollerns or something.
The Act of Settlement not only disqualified Catholic claimants from succession to the English throne, but actually removed about 50 mainly Italian and French Princes and Princesses from the same. (More here, and here).

You can say what you like about replacing them with Germans, but the British royal family would’ve looked a lot different if they hadn’t.

As for Philip sounding nothing but British, who wouldn’t if they lived and went to school in England from the age of 7?? I went to an independent school in Cambridge. There were quite a few kids from other parts of the Commonwealth.

And it wasn’t uncommon either for some of the old-school teachers there to be ex-colonial types (what we’d call at work “second gen(eration) born abroad)” (wouldn’t automatically be regarded as British today, unless their parents were born in the UK; the rules were different before those countries became independent).

It really was a very different world.
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#55
Another plate to add to my collection
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(12-04-2021, 10:26 PM)Barry Wrote: Another plate to add to my collection
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/6spd1mK.jpg]

Christ! Wink

(10-04-2021, 08:18 PM)Parsifal Wrote: I read earlier that Philip's family was not Greek but rather descended from a royal Danish house that the European powers had put on the throne of Greece in the 19th century.  He was sixth in line to the Greek throne but never learned the Greek language.  His first language was English.

Yes Philip's grandfather was originally Prince William of Denmark who was nominated as King of Greece in 1862 and took the title King George I of Greece. So Philip didn't actually have any Greek blood.
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(12-04-2021, 10:26 PM)Barry Wrote: Another plate to add to my collection
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/6spd1mK.jpg]

Are you hanging it on the wall or will you be using it in the traditional Greek way as an extra tribute?
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(14-04-2021, 12:23 PM)Evil_Scot Wrote:
(12-04-2021, 10:26 PM)Barry Wrote: Another plate to add to my collection
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/6spd1mK.jpg]

Are you hanging it on the wall or will you be using it in the traditional Greek way as an extra tribute?

Or throw it on the floor when you dance in a group.
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(09-04-2021, 11:20 PM)Bangle1 Wrote: Lol The BBC have received so many complaints that they have set up a streamlined complaints process https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/death-duke...tification

I watched the news earlier and there was some bloke who kept saying things like 'the entire nation is weeping right now'. I will not mourn a single day for someone I've never met. It is entirely disproportionate to pull every single channel to either have wall to wall coverage or blank screens for mourning.

Quote:The BBC has confirmed it received 109,741 complaints from the public over its coverage of the Duke of Edinburgh's death.
The corporation cleared its schedules to cover the news when Prince Philip died on Friday, at the age of 99.
EastEnders and the MasterChef final were replaced by news programmes, while BBC Four was taken off air completely.
The BBC said it was "a significant event which generated a lot of interest both nationally and internationally".
It added: "We acknowledge some viewers were unhappy with the level of coverage given, and impact this had on the billed TV and Radio schedules.
"We do not make such changes without careful consideration and the decisions made reflect the role the BBC plays as the national broadcaster, during moments of national significance.
"We are grateful for all feedback, and we always listen to the response from our audiences."

The corporation's fortnightly complaints report was published on Thursday.
The figure makes the coverage of Prince Philip's death the most complained-about piece of programming in BBC history.
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#60
His legacy is secure.
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