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Brexit
Wow.
They REALLY love the little Great British fishies don't they ?

LOL
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Listening to Von Der Leyen's press conference after the deal, she's all polite and friendly and hopeful... thanking people (even the British negotiators) and looking forward to the future and working together... on the other hand I expect our wanker of a PM to go on about "winning" and sovereignty and bollocks like that. Embarassing.
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How did you guess

"WE WON THEM
WE GOT MORE THAN THEY DID
ITS LIKE 1945 ALL OVER AGAIN !!!"
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Any bets on how long it will be before Boris renegs on one of the details of the trade deal?
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Boxing Day ?
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(25-12-2020, 06:17 AM)Parsifal Wrote: Any bets on how long it will be before Boris renegs on one of the details of the trade deal?

Ask any of the women in his life how long he has kept a promise
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LOL
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We’ve gotten ourselves a “great deal” (allegedly).

My main worry is now ratification. The CETA agreement still hasn’t been fully ratified - it’s still provisional, because the EU decided member states needed to ratify it. And for federal countries, like Belgium and Germany, that meant the states or regions got to have their say.

The Belgians are still holding off, as are the Cypriots (and one or two others). Does that mean the EU will need to review that deal again at some point?? And will they ask for the same level of ratification for our deal too??

We don’t want to be like Austria-Hungary, where the whole settlement had to be renewed every 10 years.
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So Malta could ditch the whole deal?
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That’s my worry. Won’t affect provisional application, though.

They might, however, ask for ‘extras’. You’d hope the negotiators would’ve foreseen this, and ruled it out.
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According to a former director of a research institute (Institute for Public Policy Research):
"The result of the deal is that the European Union retains all of its current advantages in trading, particularly with goods, and the U.K. loses all of its current advantages in the trade for services."

That's because services (financial, lawyers, architects, consultants) which account for 80% of British economic activity were largely left out of the deal.

It will be interesting to see how Boris spins that as a "win".

The result is that British services corporations are moving EU business to satellite offices on the Continent (Paris, Frankfurt and other cities).
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The fishermen are fuming.

You all owe me 50p
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Johnson has given an interview to the Torygraph today where he's admitted the deal for the financial services industry "perhaps does not go as far as we would like", which as we all know is Boris-speak for "I've shafted them royally",

According to the BBC, the financial services sector was worth £126bn to the UK in 2019, whilst fishing brought in £437m. Now, I'm no rabid capitalist - in fact I'm all for looking after the little guy - but even I can see that prioritising fishing rights during negotiations was pretty fucking pointless,

Oh, & Johnson's comments on tariffs being levied if the UK diverges too far from EU standards are typical bluster too: “All that’s really saying is the UK won’t immediately send children up chimneys or pour raw sewage all over its beaches".

So glad we won't send children up chimneys..."immediately". One for the future eh?  Rolleyes
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As a couple of commentators are pointing out today, we now have the Mail and all the usual suspects crowing about how this deal is so much better than no deal.

Which is just a deflection from the fact it is so much worse than either what we were promised.. or, obv, EU membership.
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On behalf of the 110bn events / music / theatre world I can confirm there is NOTHING in the deal for us and it will be several years before wavers and exceptions will be in place to enable this sector to do tomorrow what was t even a mouse click yesterday. This deal has literally prevented the next Beatles
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Did the Beatles get their breakthrough by performing in Europe or the U.S.?  (I don't know.  Asking)
Don't expect a "fabulous" trade deal with the U.S. either. Sad
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(28-12-2020, 01:03 AM)Parsifal Wrote: Did the Beatles get their breakthrough by performing in Europe or the U.S.?  (I don't know.  Asking)
I would say yes, they did. But like most bands, two or three years was more than enough. They only ended up touring for half the time they were together.
Quote:Don't expect a "fabulous" trade deal with the U.S. either. Sad
I wouldn’t expect anything less. We all know the special relationship is one-way.
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The “special relationship” is merely a British comfort blanket
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Do Americans even know/talk about the 'special relationship'

Over here it just seems to be a phrase wheeled out when we have to join in invading somewhere the US doesn't like or when we've scrapped our entire aviation industry so we can buy US fighter planes instead.
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Think it only really existed when Reagan was trying to get into Thatcher's pants.
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