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The next Dr Who
#21
Gone woke.

It's great when a show makes a point. But when it's forced down your neck, it's not
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#22
I'd put good money on it being Jo Martin. They've not even been subtle about her official status as one of the Doctors regenerations. The next one makes sense.

Plus she was pretty excellent in the last series and is a lot less earnest and much more relaxed and assured than Whittaker.

I am glad it's not Olly Alexander.
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#23
(27-06-2021, 10:44 PM)ladsnet Wrote: It used to be a sci-fi drama.

Its now a show for promoting 'issues'

Why can't it be both? "Star Trek" always couched "issues" in a sci-fi platform to make it more palatable to a mainstream audience. Why can't "Doctor Who" do the same? 

I can't stand the term "woke". It's something a far-right person would use to shut down any progress.
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#24
Because as Hugh pointed out, that is ALL it's about these days.

Star Trek is/was a sci-fi series where the occasional episode threw in an 'issue'


Doctor Who now seems to be on a mission to preach every issue they can think of, every episode. Its like a Schools & Colleges programme from the 70s.

Someone on another website posted "what are the chances of the next Doctor being a white, hetrosexual, able-bodied man ? Zero "

Which in a Daily Mail way is a terrible thing to say... but in another way, he's spot on. Because the next Doctor won't be a David Tennant or a Matt Smith or a Christopher Eccleston.
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#25
It's the preachyness of Dr Who. "You should feel bad about this"
Doctor Who went from having a few dud episodes to having a few good ones.

How to complaint about wokeness without sounding like Laurence Fox or the Daily Mail.
I'm not right-winged. So I'm not complaining about more representation.
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#26
I’m not watching it if it’s OA.

Bring back Adam Rickitt.

I still would.
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#27
I know I could be wrong, but I think the change in Dr. Who might be because of the US audience being a larger group or percentage than it was once in years past. The US is a nation, as I understand it, that has a much larger problem with social issues and change than a nation like the UK does now. I was telling someone else on another board that a nation like the US needs these episodes as long as the issues being talked about exist. Unfortunately, if I'm right, that just makes the rest of the viewing audience have to suffer through it. Until those issues in the US either no longer exist or are much less of a problem, I don't see it changing in necessity, but it might just change source again one day to a new show instead of Dr. Who and then the rest of the viewing audience won't have to be subjected to it anymore.
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#28
(28-06-2021, 11:44 AM)ladsnet Wrote: Someone on another website posted  "what are the chances of the next Doctor being a white, hetrosexual, able-bodied man ? Zero "

Well, I’m still hoping for one particular white, homosexual, able-bodied man…Russell Tovey. The fact that I fancy him is neither nor there
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#29
Russell would be awesome I agree but I keep thinking about an actress they suggested on YouTubes WatchMojo......Haley Atwell. I personally think she'd bring the right amount of Matt Smiths enthusiasm and David Tennets "you get one chance" protectiveness. Also, I heard she'd love to play the Doctor if it was offered.
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#30
The old series was a fantasy adventure serial with regular cliffhangers, if they did “issues” they’d be pretty allegorical so that it didn’t get in the way of the story.
These days I’ve noticed some US fantasy shows can sometimes tend to get very heavy-handed on issues and it sounds as if new Who has followed suit.
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#31
Doctor Who has gone to in your face with the points that they are making.

With Peter Capaldi as Dr Who, the quality went down. But with Jodie Whittaker as Dr Who. it's become preachy in your face with things. So the quality isn't good.

Not that I'm against having more representation within tv and film.

It's that "oh this bad thing happened then and you should feel very bad and should be doing something to correct it" type of attitude.
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