"Alexa. Why are you shit ?"

[Parsifal]

“someone trying to denigrate a product just because they’ve decided they don’t like it”

?

Uh... that’s what one is supposed to do when one doesn’t like a product or service.  That’s the power of the consumer in a consumer economy.

Don't agree.
Saying "I don't like it" is a world apart from denigrating a product.
The latter is (unnecessarily) negative while the former is neutral.

If someone isn't happy with your performance should that person denigrate you or rather just go somewhere else or, if appropriate, report your performance.

We get too much denigration in this age of Trump.

[jdcyl]

“someone trying to denigrate a product just because they’ve decided they don’t like it”

?

Uh... that’s what one is supposed to do when one doesn’t like a product or service.  That’s the power of the consumer in a consumer economy.

Don't agree.
Saying "I don't like it" is a world apart from denigrating a product.
The latter is (unnecessarily) negative while the former is neutral.

If someone isn't happy with your performance should that person denigrate you or rather just go somewhere else or, if appropriate, report your performance.

We get too much denigration in this age of Trump.

You’re logically inconsistent.  Going by the standard of what you’ve just said, much of what you post about Donald Trump goes too far  - not to me, but measured by the attitude and spirit of what you just posted.

I can read an outrageously scathing restaurant review, say, and I can discern where the critic has his tongue-in-cheek, where his intent is more serious, etc.  You famously can not.  You take things literally or earnestly, when the vast majority of other readers can pick out it’s not serious.   You often are demonstrably a poor judge of varying shades of grey.  That’s your shortcoming when it comes to a spectrum that includes “raving adoration.. don’t like ... denigration... loathing “

[summerfever]

“someone trying to denigrate a product just because they’ve decided they don’t like it”

?

Uh... that’s what one is supposed to do when one doesn’t like a product or service.  That’s the power of the consumer in a consumer economy.

I just don't think it's particularly pleasant of ladsnet to start a thread on his own website simply to disparage a product that doesn't happen to fit his requirements.  83% out of 37,500 reviews give the Echo 8 five stars and a mere 3% give one or two stars.  Using those reviews to back up his claims is a bit ridiculous.  

All I was trying to ascertain was which products ladsnet had issues with.  If it's only the Echo then his sweeping generalisations about Amazon don't really have any merit.  It seems fashionable these days to criticise anything that is insanely popular.  I am sorry I dared to disagree with him.

[Heinrich]

Amazon's a shit company with a shit CEO that fucks its workers every chance it gets on its way to making Bezos a trillionaire. Fuck them.

[jdcyl]

“someone trying to denigrate a product just because they’ve decided they don’t like it”

?

Uh... that’s what one is supposed to do when one doesn’t like a product or service.  That’s the power of the consumer in a consumer economy.

I just don't think it's particularly pleasant of ladsnet to start a thread on his own website simply to disparage a product that doesn't happen to fit his requirements.  83% out of 37,500 reviews give the Echo 8 five stars and a mere 3% give one or two stars.  Using those reviews to back up his claims is a bit ridiculous.  

All I was trying to ascertain was which products ladsnet had issues with.  If it's only the Echo then his sweeping generalisations about Amazon don't really have any merit.  It seems fashionable these days to criticise anything that is insanely popular.  I am sorry I dared to disagree with him.

You’ve got the wrong end of the stick, if you’re going with pretending the problem is you “dared to disagree with him.”

The problem is it’s as if you have no familiarity with the basic concept that “People talk shit about stuff.”  It’s nothing more.

[ladsnet]

someone trying to denigrate a product just because they've decided they don't like it

So even after taking time to construct a post outlining why I made the OP, you still summarise by "you just don't like it".
Which is what I knew you would do.. and why I didn't bother making any coherent reply for 2 days.

83% out of 37,500 reviews give the Echo 8 five stars and a mere 3% give one or two stars. Using those reviews to back up his claims is a bit ridiculous.

Its not an Echo 8. I never said it was an Echo 8.
But if the negative reviews of the Echo 8 mirror what I said... that further proves that Amazon do not listen to customer feedback and new models still display the same unresolved issues as older one.

I admit, I have a Kindle that I love.
Although I have installed hacked firmware to remove the Amazon annoyances.

I tried a Kindle Fire tablet once.
It was utterly shit.

[Parsifal]

“someone trying to denigrate a product just because they’ve decided they don’t like it”

?

Uh... that’s what one is supposed to do when one doesn’t like a product or service.  That’s the power of the consumer in a consumer economy.

Don't agree.
Saying "I don't like it" is a world apart from denigrating a product.
The latter is (unnecessarily) negative while the former is neutral.

If someone isn't happy with your performance should that person denigrate you or rather just go somewhere else or, if appropriate, report your performance.

We get too much denigration in this age of Trump.

You’re logically inconsistent.  Going by the standard of what you’ve just said, much of what you post about Donald Trump goes too far  - not to me, but measured by the attitude and spirit of what you just posted.

I can read an outrageously scathing restaurant review, say, and I can discern where the critic has his tongue-in-cheek, where his intent is more serious, etc.  You famously can not.  You take things literally or earnestly, when the vast majority of other readers can pick out it’s not serious.   You often are demonstrably a poor judge of varying shades of grey.  That’s your shortcoming when it comes to a spectrum that includes “raving adoration.. don’t like ... denigration... loathing “

My post obviously went over your head.
To compare what I said above with the mainline criticisms that I've made of Donald Trump (you read The New York Times, yes?) is idiotic.  Really!  You're grasping at straws here.

You're saying that what you posted earlier was not serious?
Oh well.  I give in.

In all fairness to you, you do have a habit of making weird, negative and inappropriate posts.  So I'll have to take your word for it about what was your intent.

Where did “raving adoration.. don’t like ... denigration... loathing “ come from?

[Ollie2UK]

My post obviously went over your head.

You've posted this so many times it's lost all meaning,

Maybe Amazon could come up with some smart bit of tech that helps "decode" posts on an internet forum for New Yorkers of a certain vintage,

[Parsifal]

My post obviously went over your head.

You've posted this so many times it's lost all meaning,

You made that up.
In fact I use that phrase very sparingly and to my recollection I've used it here about twice in the last ten years, always for the same person.

Maybe Amazon could come up with some smart bit of tech that helps "decode" posts on an internet forum for New Yorkers of a certain vintage,

Only for New Yorkers of a certain age who have to decipher certain unhappy and consistently negative Londoners of a certain age.

[Heinrich]

This whole forum's gonna mute Parsi by the new year.

[Parsifal]

Look, I know a lot of people, a LOT!  And I get a lot of goodwill.  No negativity except from certain people here on fmf.

So I don't have to take seriously any idiocy from a negative and petty diabolic here on fmf.
He has "issues" that he has to work on.

[ladsnet]

I know we've been saying this sort of tongue in cheek for the past few weeks now.. but if you small merry bunch don't stop turning every gossip thread into a little griping session/where to buy the best sandwich in New York session then its going to be a few weeks posting holiday session for all of you.

Seriously.

Pack it in.


If you want to start a 'ramble chat topic' then against my better judgement I'll allow it. For now.
But you WILL keep it out of all the other topics please. Thankyou.

[jumbler]

From my experience of Amazon tech products...  you get what they want you to have. They have no interest in what you want it to do. With little updates or improvement.

There it is. Thats what it does. Deal with it.

Which is fair enough but not what other tech companies do. But then I suppose they're not a tech company. They're a shop.

Their rubbish tech makes me nostalgic for the days when all they did was destroy bookstores,

Make me feel all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it,

Hmmmmm, yeah. I’ve really cut down the amount of products I order from them, mainly for gifts or essential buys. I only order because they can deliver such a wide range of goods (phone/tablet leads/DVDs/books) in a reasonable timeframe, conveniently.

But I definitely don’t like the way they’re failing to invest, in their website, and apps for example. Their whole site reeks of Android. And it doesn’t exactly look customer-focused. Hmmmm.

I was present buying a few weeks ago, and instead of making suggestions based on products I’d been looking at (celebrity cookbooks), it was recommending bog-standard shit (books like “how to make 500 meals for £1, how to go vegan etc. etc.”). Totally lost the plot. 

[ladsnet]

Despite being sat next to my bed (although it cannot know this), and in a year I have never once shown it any interest in recipes or cookery in any way shape or form.. it still runs through its "have you tried 'Ask Alexa how to make a xxxx pie?' " every couple of days.
No way to stop it.
It doesn't learn.

[Parsifal]

Maybe MI5 (or even MI6?) has informed Alexa that you are a crap cook and are encouraging her to get you to up your game.

[deegee178]

Maybe MI5 (or even MI6?) has informed Alexa that you are a crap cook and are encouraging her to get you to up your game.

MI5 (MI6 spy on foreigners).

As for Alexa, I had it on my soundbar but had to turn it off as I got fed up of it muting the TV and asking me what I wanted every time someone on a programme said Alexa 

[summerfever]

Despite being sat next to my bed (although it cannot know this), and in a year I have never once shown it any interest in recipes or cookery in any way shape or form.. it still runs through its  "have you tried 'Ask Alexa how to make a xxxx pie?' " every couple of days.
No way to stop it.
It doesn't learn.

"On the Echo Show:  Go to settings -> Home Content -> Uncheck Popular Recipes"

Took me less than 30 seconds to find out how to do that on Google.  Seems like you and technology just do not mix well do they?

[jdcyl]

Despite being sat next to my bed (although it cannot know this), and in a year I have never once shown it any interest in recipes or cookery in any way shape or form.. it still runs through its  "have you tried 'Ask Alexa how to make a xxxx pie?' " every couple of days.
No way to stop it.
It doesn't learn.

"On the Echo Show:  Go to settings -> Home Content -> Uncheck Popular Recipes"

Took me less than 30 seconds to find out how to do that on Google.  Seems like you and technology just do not mix well do they?

But that is failure for a product sold as an ‘intelligent’ device.

[jumbler]

This. Most tablets and browsers pick up an idea of the user’s interests through their browsing history, and cookies. So they can at least try to match it using targeted ads.

If the Echo family can’t do that... they’re pretty dumb.

[ladsnet]

Mine must be faulty then because there is no option for "Popular Recipes" in the Home Content settings.
And everything in there except reminders is turned off. But its still constantly asking me "Have you tried "Alexa... tell me a joke about Lesbians" "



Quality tech.