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"Alexa. Why are you shit ?"
#1
Is it just me ?


Last Christmas my brother got me an Echo Show 5 to use as a bedside clock / internet radio.
Which its quite good at I suppose. But would be much better if it had controls you could press instead of having to talk to the bloody thing.

But otherwise... its shite.
It never understands what you want it to do.  And 99% of the things it can do are utterly useless anyway  "Alexa. Make a noise like a giraffe"


I've got friends who have them in every room and think they're amazing.


Am I missing something ?
#2
Yes, I like to fiddle with the knobs too!

Maybe it doesn’t understand your accent??
#3
Nah its just shit
#4
I’ve never understood why anyone would want to talk to their device. Hey Siri this, Hey Google that. Alexa, spank my arse!!

When I grew up, computers were dumb. You had to type something in to get what you wanted. Bit like choosing which page or article to read. Sort of expect phones and iPads and tv boxes to stay like it.
#5
They're still dumb. They just pretend to be intelligent.

I mean...
Why spend 10 seconds typing or pressing 'play Heart Christmas' when I can spend 12 hours trying to talk the same thing.
(Hard earned hint... It understands 'play heart exmas' but not 'play heart Christmas' because the name of the station has been input somewhere as Heart Xmas.)

THATS artificial intelligence in action
#6
I had an Echo in the kitchen. I literally just used it to play the radio, or music or set timers. It was fine for about 2 years but over the last 6 months it went completely to shit.

It kept disconnecting from the Wifi (which takes about 5 minutes of fiddling around the app and wifi settings on my phone to log back in) it also started responding about 30 seconds after I asked it something. If by some miracle I got it to actually play what I wanted, it would just decide to stop after about 20 minutes. I chucked it in the bin one day it annoyed me so much and got a Google Nest a couple months ago which works fine.. for now (I feel a bit of a dick saying 'Hey Google' rather than 'Alexa' but hopefully I'll get used to that..
#7
As a gadget freak I have several Echo speakers and smart displays as well as Google Home speakers and smart displays. Because I had the Amazon devices earlier, I've become used to using them for home control. Turning on lights and heating and so on.
I tend to use the Google ones for media, radio, the occasional podcast and listening to my own music before they ruined that.

The smart displays are brilliant to display my own and family photographs
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#8
I use Alexa alot, for heating and lighting etc.

However, on Saturday night the thing suddenly sprung into action asking me to rate a previous product I'd purchased! " Alexa, cancel" but she kept on going!
#9
I've never owned a device I have to speak to & I don't think I ever will,

It's annoying enough screaming down the phone at voice-activated menus for BT or British Gas without filling my life with them. Plus, don't you feel a bit of an idiot talking to a plastic box?  Huh
#10
Well, AI learns (improves) from exposure to massive amounts of data, i.e., experienced events. While a child or a puppy is constantly being fed data through eyes, ears, touch, etc. these devices are not. I am guessing the individual units and the collective network are exposed mostly to simplistic interactions, and we as their ‘parents’/ ‘masters’ dumb down further our interactions with them because of their limitations. So, with the situation as it is now, I have little to no interest in these things. I can’t expect growth from it. I’d much rather have a puppy.
#11
I detest voice control. Give me buttons and settings menus.
#12
Those voice activated devices continue to listen to every word and sound produced in the vacinity of it. Why would you want a major company that type of access to your life?
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#13
(07-12-2020, 07:08 PM)Ollie2UK Wrote: It's annoying enough screaming down the phone at voice-activated menus for BT or British Gas without filling my life with them.

I actually prefer talking to a voice-activated menu with a strong, clear American accent than talking to someone in India with a hard-to-understand accent over a crappy phone connection.

The part that I find annoying is to have to often say to that person (in India):
"Say that again!"
"Spell that last word."

(07-12-2020, 07:08 PM)Ollie2UK Wrote: I've never owned a device I have to speak to & I don't think I ever will,

I don't have any and don't have much interest.

I have a friend with whom I often have dinner (pre-pandemic) who is a latest-technology guy.
During dinner conversation if a question came up he would pull out his phone and say:
"Hey Suri (or whomever).  Who was the 15th president of the United States?"
It would impress me.

(07-12-2020, 10:56 PM)edu29d Wrote: Those voice activated devices continue to listen to every word and sound produced in the vacinity of it. Why would you want a major company that type of access to your life?

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#14
Quote:Fans of the Queen’s Christmas Day broadcast will be able to listen without lifting a finger – and not just because the TV’s been tuned to BBC One since The Gruffalo at 8.55am. Alexa users will be able to summon Her Majesty into their living rooms from 3pm GMT with the words “Alexa, play the Queen’s Christmas Day message”.

The privilege isn’t reserved just for Brits. Anyone with their Amazon Echo set to English – be that British, American, Australian, Canadian or Indian – will be able to listen to the speech, Amazon has announced.
Source
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#15
I often ask Siri the same question but she is too stupid to respond.

When it works, it’s great. When it plays the wrong song by the wrong artist with nothing similar in the names to what I asked for, I despair.

I like that I can ask it to turn the volume up when I am outside in the cold with gloves on and traffic is loud. I hate it when she says she can’t do that right now because she can’t even understand basic commands without connecting to the internet even though the phone is immensely powerful.
#16
Yet another case of a globally successful product being slagged off by a minority that has nothing better to do than find something to moan about.  Amazon products have sold in their millions so they are clearly not shit are they?

And before you all start whining that everyone's entitled to their opinion let me remind you that if anyone dares to say that they don't like a particular celebrity in the Showbiz View thread they are summarily rounded on for negative comments.  Unless of course you're one of the arse licking regulars who think they're part of the elite crowd.
#17
"Alexa. Who is this bundle of fun ?"
#18
(24-12-2020, 12:37 PM)summerfever Wrote: Yet another case of a globally successful product being slagged off by a minority that has nothing better to do than find something to moan about.  Amazon products have sold in their millions so they are clearly not shit are they?

And yet like another Amazon product, the Ring doorbell camera, whose users are in the process of suing, it's riddled with privacy concerns and the masses are being led down the garden path by a multinational with its own interests at heart.
#19
From my experience of Amazon tech products... you get what they want you to have. They have no interest in what you want it to do. With little updates or improvement.
There it is. Thats what it does. Deal with it.


Which is fair enough but not what other tech companies do.

But then I suppose they're not a tech company. They're a shop.
#20
(24-12-2020, 01:46 PM)ladsnet Wrote: But then I suppose they're not a tech company. They're a shop.

Their rubbish tech makes me nostalgic for the days when all they did was destroy bookstores,

Make me feel all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it,


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