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Fairy Tale of New York.
BBC Radio 1 will not play original version.
#1
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54999375

What are people's views, it's one of my favourite songs at Christmas, and to be honest the inclusion of the F@**&T word never really caused me any concern. However I'm now wondering should I be concerned, should I be upset about it?  Are we being too over sensitive?
The gay community now use words like queer, which I find far more offensive than the other word.
What do you think?
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#2
Although I usually roll my eyes when Piers Morgan and his like start ranting about wokeness and PC gone mad... I must admit I do find this one utterly pathetic.

They'll play the original on Radio 2 but censor it on Radio 1 because the 'yoof' will be offended but the oldies won't.
What an absolute load of bollocks.
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(19-11-2020, 10:40 PM)Sopboy Wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54999375

What are people's views, it's one of my favourite songs at Christmas, and to be honest the inclusion of the F@**&T word never really caused me any concern. However I'm now wondering should I be concerned, should I be upset about it?  Are we being too over sensitive?
The gay community now use words like queer, which I find far more offensive than the other word.
What do you think?

It's actually one of my least favourite 'Holiday' Songs, I won't call it a Christmas song as I want to be inclusive of all faiths Sleepy . I can understand why some might take issue but I tend not to care what the perpetually offended think and believe it should continue to be played in it's original format. If they are going to rejig it, I'd like them to perhaps toss in a few fucks and cunts as Jesus would have originally wanted.
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#4
"But Radio 1 has decided younger listeners who are unfamiliar with the track would find some of the words stark and not in line with what they would expect to hear on air."

I guess we can lump younger listeners together with conservative Christians.
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(20-11-2020, 12:04 AM)Parsifal Wrote: "But Radio 1 has decided younger listeners who are unfamiliar with the track would find some of the words stark and not in line with what they would expect to hear on air."

I guess we can lump younger listeners together with conservative Christians.

By the time a kid is ten, they must of heard the song hundreds of times. Was their "younger listener" home schooled in a cave until they turned 18?
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#6
It is strange. I get them dropping the sound on swear words - at least before the watershed - but faggot and slut are pretty tame,

The song is like a play anyway, it's obviously two characters having a fight. You wouldn't censor those words in a film or a TV show, so I'm not sure why they have to on the radio,  Undecided

Ultimately though, it's a load of fuss over nothing. Who gives two fucks what the slutty faggots at the BBC think?
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(20-11-2020, 12:48 AM)Ollie2UK Wrote: Who gives two fucks what the slutty faggots at the BBC think?
Are these faggots slutty? There's six of them all very close together cuddling in a bath of "gravy"...


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(19-11-2020, 10:40 PM)Sopboy Wrote: However I'm now wondering should I be concerned, should I be upset about it?  Are we being too over sensitive? What do you think?
Yes, up to a point. It’s not about what you say as much as how (often) you say it.

Besides, I can’t believe young’uns haven’t heard of Google and can’t look up the words themselves. They are obviously trading insults in that bit. If you can’t work out the context, you plainly aren’t listening to it properly either.
Quote: The gay community now use words like queer, which I find far more offensive than the other word.
”Queer” is a synonym for “non-straight”, or variants of sexuality. I see it as a good thing. A lot of heterosexism/homophobia (even if quite mild) starts from the position that “people are always straight”.

Well, we’re not for a start. Many people are not (even if they don’t label themselves openly). It’s about time the world got with it and accepted that fact.
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(20-11-2020, 12:56 AM)9in Wrote:
(20-11-2020, 12:48 AM)Ollie2UK Wrote: Who gives two fucks what the slutty faggots at the BBC think?
Are these faggots slutty? There's six of them all very close together cuddling in a bath of "gravy"...

That's not gravy that's santorum.
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#10
I don't see the problem either way. I think, like most words, it depends on context. In the context of the song it makes perfect sense, as does it potentially bothering some people.

What I don't get, or really think makes any sense, is the BBC's response, either admit it's your policy it's a problem and alter it for all broadcast stations or leave it alone (my preference). Changing it for Radio 1 and not for others is just fucked up.


(20-11-2020, 01:08 AM)Heinrich Wrote: That's not gravy that's santorum.

I regret google sometimes.
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#11
LOL
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(20-11-2020, 01:47 AM)9in Wrote: HeinrichThat's not gravy that's santorum.

I regret google sometimes.

I had to google it too. Sad 
A consolation is that former Republican senator from Pennsylvania Rick Santorum is a fucking asshole.
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#13
Look up the history of it! It's named after him!
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#14
Rick Santorum is the only US politician, so far that I am aware of now, to ever have a sexual act named after him. I've never seen the "food" version of a faggot before this thread. You all probably know by now that I'm one of the Americans on this board, so I have to admit that I had never heard this song until it was partially played on a Christmas episode of "The Vicar of Dibley"
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(20-11-2020, 12:56 AM)9in Wrote: Are these faggots slutty? There's six of them all very close together cuddling in a bath of "gravy"...

Oh great, now I have to have a wank.
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I wouldn't mind.. but from what I see of the yoof of today, half of em are faggots and the other half are sluts.

(I accept there is some Venn diagram crossover involved that I have glossed over here)
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