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Holidays are coming
(no they're not)
#21
I'm just going to ignore you from here on in because, a bit like watching GB News, its impossible to argue against someone who constantly ignores the point, and you've just been disagreeing with everything I, and others, have said for the past 2 years and to be frank I'm bored of it now.


Anyway.

What other Americanisms can we rant about ?
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#22
The uk has had no problem inserting its language and other things in other countries.
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#23
Did somebody speak ?
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#24
"Happy Holidays" can be heard both ways:  Inclusion or Avoidance.
I very much doubt that we (in America) would be saying "Happy Holidays" in December if Christmas were not a prominent Christian holiday in the first place.  (So it really is all about Christmas with an eye to other faiths)

For example:
I live in a large apartment building (145 apartments - or flats for you UK folk).
The building used to have a "Holiday Party" in the building's lobby in mid-December.  Then they moved it to January and called it a "Winter Party" instead.  (I suspect that the building's co-op board felt that mid-December was too close to Christmas for comfort).  I believe they've moved it to a "Spring Party" now.  Not sure, will have to wait and see.
In my opinion, a clear case of avoidance rather than inclusion (i.e. "running away" from any whiff of association with Christmas).

Another trend that's going around:
The years for historical events, e.g. 123 B.C or 83 A.D., are being re-labled to B.C.E (Before Current Era) and C.E. (Current Era).  Well, regardless of whether you call it 123 B.C. or 123 B.C.E. the reference point is still the (approximate) date of Christ's birth.
Is this an Americanism and has it hit the U.K. yet?
Again, a case of avoidance.

Inclusion can be a good thing, but sometimes it borders on idiocy. Loon
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#25
In the US we celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa during this time.

Happy Holidays just seem to encompass them all. Are there only Christians in Britain?
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#26
FFS
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#27
LOL
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#28
I hate the term with a passion and get pissed off every year when the Coke truck ad gets rolled out and deliberately sing Christmas is coming over it.
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#29
It is an interesting subject, outside of the definition of a holiday. England is multicultural, so I'd be interested to know how things like Christmas and other days of celebration are dealt with now. The US just created an umbrella saying to cover them all when a diverse group speaks to each other. What does England do?
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#30
They say "Happy Christmas" full stop.

Then they play with those stupid "cracker" things.
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#31
In a Christian sense, the UK is really not a religious country anymore. Certainly much much less so than the US.

Apart from those (esp. right wing media) trying to make a point, the vast vast majority of people don't really associate 'christmas' with Christ anymore.
Its just the name we give to the mid-winter festival celebrated since pagan times.
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#32
(20-11-2022, 12:42 PM)ladsnet Wrote: the vast vast majority of people don't really associate 'christmas' with Christ anymore.

It's a commercial bonanza ($$$ £££ €€€).  And a very clever one. Wink
(A true Christian spirit wouldn't be about buying presents)
During the Christmas season I like going to seasonal concerts (e.g. Handel's "Messiah" and others).

Raised Lutheran I go to church at most once a year; that would be to a candlelight service on Christmas Eve at a church on Central Park West that gives a beautiful and uplifting service with beautiful music (and professional musicians).  All for the price of a banknote dropped into the collection tray. (They do need money to keep the lights on, after all)
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