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The Homophobic World Cup 2022
#1
So does the hosting of the World Cup in Qatar mean, as a gay, you won't be watching ?

Or is the pull of the totty too much ??
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#2
I don't care for football anyway, but hearing representatives for Qatar say that homosexuality is a disease of the mind makes me wonder why anyone should support this bullsh*t. They don't deserve the gravitas and inevitable publicity and renown such a tournament will bring as long as they continue to murder people for who they love.

So, in an answer to your question... no. And, f*ck Qatar and their homophobic regime.

But... it is refreshing to see many footballers and clubs (also renowned for their poor historic support of the LGBTQIA+ community) at least try and take a (somewhat weak) stance against them in *support* of our right to exist. More of this.
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#3
Must be the repetitive ask a Qatari sheikh if they like gays cup instead which would probably would be more interesting than watching the national team lose again anyway.
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#4
It’s ok England will be out straight away so can switch off after that.
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#5
(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: hearing representatives for Qatar say that homosexuality is a disease of the mind

Not just anybody, a "World Cup ambassador"!!

(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: They don't deserve the gravitas and inevitable publicity and renown

They're getting publicity — bad publicity. The spotlight is on their shitty state.

“The Football Association of Wales (FAW) is considering creating “safe houses” for women and LGBTQ+ supporters visiting Qatar for the World Cup, due to concerns around the country’s human rights record.”

(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: as long as they continue to murder people for who they love.

"Err", says my internal pedant,  "for whom they have sex with"!

“Male homosexuality is illegal in Qatar, with a punishment of up to three years in prison and a fine and the possibility of death penalty for Muslims under sharia law; however, there are no known cases that the death penalty was enforced for homosexuality”.

(This seem to be in contrast to Iran, which many soi disant progressives seem to support.)

The death penalty applies to straight people who have sex outside marriage too...

"Since 2004, Article 296 of the current Penal Code (Law 11/2004) stipulates imprisonment between one and three years for sodomy between men. This is a slight revision of the original law that stipulated up to five years' imprisonment for male homosexuality. Also, the death penalty is applicable only to Muslims, for extramarital sex regardless of the gender of the participants."

—from LGBT rights in Qatar.

Meanwhile, BrewDog beer on sale in Qatar despite brewer’s anti-World Cup protest campaign...
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#6
I will be watching from home knowing that at least our England Players seem to want change and accept that we should be allowed to be part of the sport and to take part in the game..
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#7
So how do we feel about David Beckham? Quatar's culture and tourism ambassador who seeemed to enjoy his gay icon status... but not enough to reject the money that they offered him.
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(09-11-2022, 04:27 PM)Tiuri Wrote: So how do we feel about David Beckham? Quatar's culture and tourism ambassador who seeemed to enjoy his gay icon status... but not enough to reject the money that they offered him.

This seems about right:

Rob Rinder slams David Beckham over ‘tragic’ Qatar ambassadorship ahead of World Cup: ‘Money over morals
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#9
Reminds me of that time Beckham queued for hours to see the Queen's coffin, so desperate for that knighthood.
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(09-11-2022, 05:53 PM)MintyRox Wrote: Reminds me of that time Beckham queued for hours to see the Queen's coffin, so desperate for that knighthood.

But at least he didn’t do a Schofield!
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#11
I think Beckham will do anything to be noticed. I mean, I'm sure the money is very welcome too, but being an "ambassador" would have him salivating - only one step down from that knighthood he's craving.

As for the World Cup itself - it's a human rights shitshow. The treatment of migrant workers has been glossed over by FIFA and most of the media even though it's been known about for years, and the fact the organisers can't even get their act together to put on a united front on the LGBTQ issue shows how little they give a fuck about it.

So, yeah, I'll watch some of the games, but I don't give much of a toss about who wins. It's a devalued event.
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#12
Quote:So, in an answer to your question... no. And, f*ck Qatar and their homophobic regime.

Damn right!!

(09-11-2022, 09:31 AM)pinkpunk Wrote:
(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: hearing representatives for Qatar say that homosexuality is a disease of the mind

Not just anybody, a "World Cup ambassador"!!

(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: They don't deserve the gravitas and inevitable publicity and renown

They're getting publicity — bad publicity. The spotlight is on their shitty state.

“The Football Association of Wales (FAW) is considering creating “safe houses” for women and LGBTQ+ supporters visiting Qatar for the World Cup, due to concerns around the country’s human rights record.”

(09-11-2022, 12:12 AM)MintyRox Wrote: as long as they continue to murder people for who they love.

"Err", says my internal pedant,  "for whom they have sex with"!

“Male homosexuality is illegal in Qatar, with a punishment of up to three years in prison and a fine and the possibility of death penalty for Muslims under sharia law; however, there are no known cases that the death penalty was enforced for homosexuality”.

(This seem to be in contrast to Iran, which many soi disant progressives seem to support.)

The death penalty applies to straight people who have sex outside marriage too...

"Since 2004, Article 296 of the current Penal Code (Law 11/2004) stipulates imprisonment between one and three years for sodomy between men. This is a slight revision of the original law that stipulated up to five years' imprisonment for male homosexuality. Also, the death penalty is applicable only to Muslims, for extramarital sex regardless of the gender of the participants."

—from LGBT rights in Qatar.

Meanwhile, BrewDog beer on sale in Qatar despite brewer’s anti-World Cup protest campaign...

Why are you making excuses for them?
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#13
I'm just going to enjoy it all on the tv, don't see what all the fuss is over unless people are going to parade around like queens. Sure it's all over hyped and quite a detraction from the footy.
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(11-11-2022, 10:48 PM)Luckydog2020 Wrote: I'm just going to enjoy it all on the to, don't see what all the fuss is over unless people are going to parade around like queens.

The fuss as you call it is human rights.
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(11-11-2022, 10:48 PM)Luckydog2020 Wrote: I'm just going to enjoy it all on the tv, don't see what all the fuss is over unless people are going to parade around like queens.  Sure it's all over hyped and quite a detraction from the footy.


OMG
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(11-11-2022, 10:48 PM)Luckydog2020 Wrote: I'm just going to enjoy it all on the tv, don't see what all the fuss is over unless people are going to parade around like queens.  Sure it's all over hyped and quite a detraction from the footy.

You are a BIG part of the problem.  We need fewer people like you in our community.  You and folks like you bring shame to all of us, defending this bullshit and minimalising these issues because it doesn't affect your cis white world perspective.  Fuck you!  (I don't care if that gets me a warning).  Things today in the UK are so much better than they were 30 years ago, so much so that people like you can now be so nonchalant about issues like this that would've affected you too back then.  You muppet.
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#17
I do find it massively ironic and hypocritical that people are raging about homophobia, misogyny and racism in Qatar.

Football, in general, is all of those things across the whole world.

I know that doesn't condone the decision to hold the World Cup there, but it does highlight the fundamental root of football's human right's problem.

I just wish that more people would take a strong stand against the sport itself and the regime instead of focusing outrage on specific non-white cultures.
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(12-11-2022, 12:54 PM)veidor Wrote: I do find it massively ironic and hypocritical that people are raging about homophobia, misogyny and racism in Qatar.

Football, in general, is all of those things across the whole world.

I know that doesn't condone the decision to hold the World Cup there, but it does highlight the fundamental root of football's human right's problem.

I just wish that more people would take a strong stand against the sport itself and the regime instead of focusing outrage on specific non-white cultures.

You mean the way the epl has a long running partnership with the stone wall foundation and every year they’ve the rainbow laces campaign, our footballers have long been vocal in support of the lgbt community.
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#19
(12-11-2022, 01:30 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote: our footballers have long been vocal in support of the lgbt community.

Does that support extend to professional footballers who come out?
(Just asking.  I don't know much about football culture except for what I read here on fmf).
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#20
(12-11-2022, 08:41 PM)Parsifal Wrote:
(12-11-2022, 01:30 PM)RyCamp88 Wrote: our footballers have long been vocal in support of the lgbt community.

Does that support extend to professional footballers who come out?
(Just asking.  I don't know much about football culture except for what I read here on fmf).

I suspect gay professional footballers are probably afraid to come out because of the fans rather than the clubs/institutions and the other players.  There seems to be lots of support there these days for us in general.  But it's such an easy 'chant' for the fans to use to abuse players and undermine them when they are on pitch that they just don't see any benefit.  The fans are actually the biggest problem in football when it comes to LGBTQIA+ representation... too much toxic masculinity.
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