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Brexit
(31-01-2021, 05:57 PM)Parsifal Wrote: So rather than exporting goods a shorter distance across the Channel to the E.U. (Britain's largest trading partner) it's looking to focus its exports at higher cost and higher pollution to the atmosphere to nations half way around the world?  That seems to counter efforts to mitigate climate change these days.
Loon

Just another crazy twist in what was always an insane idea
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By the same token, you could argue why have we been importing basic manufactured goods from China for the last 40 years.

It amounts to the same thing.
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Yes, what an epically stupid idea it is for us to not only be free to trade without tariffs with the declining, sclerotic, debt-laden, racist, protectionist, bureaucratic, corrupt and failing EU while now also being able to join the bloc that includes some of the largest economies in the world; that will probably be joined by the US (negating our need for a separate trade deal with our single largest trading partner), and with nations that are members of neither.

Honestly, what were we thinking of when we liberated ourselves from an institution that, by the time it sorts out its bungling failure over Covid inoculations will have killed probably over one hundred thousand European nationals through the difference between its response and our own?

When Boris and co talk about "our friends and neighbours in the EU" they're half right.
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Quote:bungling failure over Covid inoculations will have killed probably over one hundred thousand European nationals

(looks at UK death figure)
I assume that is sarcasm ?
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(31-01-2021, 10:19 PM)jumbler Wrote: By the same token, you could argue why have we been importing basic manufactured goods from China for the last 40 years.

It amounts to the same thing.

In the U.K. do you also import Evian water from France and Fiji water from ... Fiji?
Yesterday in the supermarket I saw water from New Zealand. Loon
Have you ever carried a large jug of water?  It's heavy.  Yes?
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We definitely have French water. Or we did until Brexit.
They probably fill it from a tap in Dover now.
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To me, the UK joining an Asian Pacific trade pact agreement like this is about as sensible as Australia trying to become a Russian state.
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But it sums up Brexit.

They want all the free trade... but don't want the immigrants.

So a trade alliance on the other side of the world is perfect. Unless them pesky asians are good swimmers.
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So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.
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(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.

So many miles to go.
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(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.

I will admit I have never remarked to any hung lad about his dick size in cms.
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(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.

Time to go British again.  Bring back:
1£ = 20/-
1/- = 12d
And let's not forget the hap'penny and the farthing.
And .... 1 guinea = 21/-
Big Grin
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(17-09-2021, 12:34 AM)jdcyl Wrote:
(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now. Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.
I will admit I have never remarked to any hung lad about his dick size in cms.
You haven’t been to Australia, then. They’re pretty metric over there, they just don’t go banging on about it. Approve

I don’t seriously think anyone under the age of 50 would relate to imperial measures like in the old days. Too much time’s gone past.
(17-09-2021, 02:15 AM)Parsifal Wrote: Time to go British again.  Bring back:
1£ = 20/-
1/- = 12d
And let's not forget the hap'penny and the farthing.
And .... 1 guinea = 21/-
Big Grin Approve
To be honest with you, “old” pennies are worthless today - at face value - (if you take the line there’s still 5p to the shilling, which is still the “official” conversion rate). Each old shilling would be worth about £1 in today’s money.

About the only advantage of old money was that you could divide £1 exactly by three, or six (no fractions). Not really worth writing home about…

And old coins aren’t really compatible with Apple Pay. Rolleyes
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(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.

OMG HWGA

This popped up in my Fb feed and I thought it was from some satire site, but nope

LOL LOL
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(17-09-2021, 03:07 AM)jumbler Wrote:
(17-09-2021, 02:15 AM)Parsifal Wrote: Time to go British again.  Bring back:
1£ = 20/-
1/- = 12d
And let's not forget the hap'penny and the farthing.
And .... 1 guinea = 21/-
Big Grin Approve
To be honest with you, “old” pennies are worthless today - at face value - (if you take the line there’s still 5p to the shilling, which is still the “official” conversion rate). Each old shilling would be worth about £1 in today’s money.

About the only advantage of old money was that you could divide £1 exactly by three, or six (no fractions). Not really worth writing home about…

And old coins aren’t really compatible with Apple Pay. Rolleyes

I believe that the old 10/- notes and old coins (5/-, 2/6, etc.) have been demonitized.  Yes?  Not talking about bringing them back.  New ones would have to be issued.  Yes?  (perhaps with King Charles soon?)

And since when is 1£ = 20/- exactly divisible by three?
(The guinea = 21/- is divisible by three and the shilling = 12d is divisible by three - and six! Is that what you meant?)
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(17-09-2021, 05:37 AM)Tiuri Wrote:
(17-09-2021, 12:14 AM)ladsnet Wrote: So...

We're bringing back imperial weights and measures now.
Yay !!!

Lets take bets on when hanging, jousting and serfdom will return.

OMG  HWGA 

This popped up in my Fb feed and I thought it was from some satire site, but nope

LOL  LOL

As Jumbler pointed out..


I'm no spring chicken.  And I've no idea at all about stones and pounds and ounces and inches and yards...
I was taught at school in metric.

There can't be much of the population that even understands it anymore.

But its probably given Farage a massive semi... so thats all right then.
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(17-09-2021, 04:15 PM)Parsifal Wrote: I believe that the old 10/- notes and old coins (5/-, 2/6, etc.) have been demonitized.  Yes?  Not talking about bringing them back.  New ones would have to be issued.  Yes?  (perhaps with King Charles soon?)
The crown (5s) is an interesting one. It wasn’t exactly an everyday coin, usually only being minted for ceremonial issues (death of Churchill, Royal Silver Wedding/Jubilee , Queen Mum’s 80. Birthday etc.).

This was noticed, so in 1981 it was changed, and revalued to be £5, and they still make them today - again for ceremonial events. Despite half-crowns being better known, they still didn’t make that many of them. Probably never after 1960??

But I think you could do with 10s/50p and £1 notes again, though. Especially as they can be made out of polymer these days, so the old arguments in favour of coins don’t carry as much.
Quote:And since when is 1£ = 20/- exactly divisible by three?
(The guinea = 21/- is divisible by three and the shilling = 12d is divisible by three - and six!  Is that what you meant?)
Well, they came to exact number of shillings and pence. You also had medieval coins (such as the ‘angel’ and ‘mark’ (6s 8d, and 13s 4d).

For some reason I believe singles used to sell around 6s 8d back in the 60s.
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Quote: demonitized

Huh?
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You can’t spend them any more. Usually when a new coin size, or shape or currency set is issued. Some countries never demonetise their old notes (Australia and New Zealand).

Even our old ones can be changed at the Bank of England.
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(17-09-2021, 07:47 PM)Kev Wrote:
Quote: demonitized

Huh?

I don't know how far back US banknotes are still legal tender, but I do know that US postage stamps issued since the Civil War are still valid for postage at face value.  Of course, you'd be stupid (very stupid!) to use mint 19th Century US postage stamps at face value on a letter today.  (Do people still write letters?)
Yes, at the onset of the Civil War (1860) new postage stamps were issued in 1861-62 and all prior stamps were "demonitized" to prevent their use by the Confederacy.
The US still has $500, $1000, $5000 and $10,000 banknotes in circulation which are still valid at face value. They haven't been issued since the 1930s or 1940s or so and banks return them to the Federal Reserve Bank whenever one shows up. You can get a LOT more than face value at coin and banknote auctions.

(17-09-2021, 07:59 PM)jumbler Wrote: You can’t spend them any more. Usually when a new coin size, or shape or currency set is issued. Some countries never demonetise their old notes (Australia and New Zealand).

Even our old ones can be changed at the Bank of England.

One year I arrived in London on a weekend with a wad of £20 notes.  The first merchant where I tried to use one told me that they were no longer valid.  It was a weekend, all banks closed.  So I found a foreign exchange booth in Euston Station who exchanged them for me lopping 50p off each note for the service.  Had a similar experience with a 50p coin once.  Annoying. Sad   Why does Bank of England do that?

It's been a while since I've been to the UK and I still have £70 in banknotes here and don't know if they're still valid (the £20 note has Adam Smith on the reverse).  I tried to scan them to throw up a photo for you, but it wouldn't let me scan them.  haha!! There must be a code that prevents that.

My euro notes will be good forever I'm sure.
(had to say something remotely relevant to Brexit on here)
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