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Scottish First Minister race - Jasper - 26-02-2023

She is leading her Muslim rival Humza Yousaf by 2% in the latest polling of SNP members. Will the SNP finally lose its claim to be a socially progressive party if they elect Forbes to lead them, and Scotland?

RE: Scottish First Minister race - ladsnet - 26-02-2023

From what SNP parliament members have been saying it would certainly send the party into a Tory style 'yellow on yellow' tearing itself apart period.

To go from a very liberal party to one led by a god bothering nutjob is quite a leap.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Ollie2UK - 27-02-2023

I'm curious why someone with such reactionary views would join a progressive party in the first place.

I suppose it's more understandable with the SNP where the goal of independence might be considered worth the price of admission, but when I look at the Labour party, I really struggle to work out how some of their MPs ended up in a left wing party. Particularly when they just want to move it to the centre/right. They could have just joined the Lib Dems Huh

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Parsifal - 27-02-2023

I don't know anything about her.
What are her positions on Scottish independence and the E.U./Brexit?

RE: Scottish First Minister race - ladsnet - 27-02-2023

Google is available

RE: Scottish First Minister race - RyCamp88 - 28-02-2023

(27-02-2023, 10:29 PM)Parsifal Wrote: I don't know anything about her.
What are her positions on Scottish independence and the E.U./Brexit?

I guess asking questions is not part of the discussion forum

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Parsifal - 28-02-2023

(27-02-2023, 11:46 PM)ladsnet Wrote: Google is available

Thank you.  I'll schedule some time tomorrow between 11:15am and 11:30am to do that.
Approve

(I think somebody is miffed at me. LOL )

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Heinrich - 28-02-2023

Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - John - 28-02-2023

(28-02-2023, 04:25 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Heinrich - 28-02-2023

(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 04:25 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

Yes. She's awesome.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Jasper - 04-03-2023

(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 04:25 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

How was Sturgeon responsible for the trans prisoner controversy manufactured by the hard right? Because it's not down to the law she championed since it's not, you know, the law without royal assent. 

I'm also curious where you imagine cis women who assault other women or children are imprisoned - also in the men's prison?

RE: Scottish First Minister race - pendorran - 09-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 06:05 AM)Jasper Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 04:25 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

How was Sturgeon responsible for the trans prisoner controversy manufactured by the hard right? Because it's not down to the law she championed since it's not, you know, the law without royal assent. 

I'm also curious where you imagine cis women who assault other women or children are imprisoned - also in the men's prison?

Nice "logic" pretzel you twisted into being just there. LOL

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Jasper - 09-03-2023

(09-03-2023, 12:51 AM)pendorran Wrote:
(04-03-2023, 06:05 AM)Jasper Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote: Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

How was Sturgeon responsible for the trans prisoner controversy manufactured by the hard right? Because it's not down to the law she championed since it's not, you know, the law without royal assent. 

I'm also curious where you imagine cis women who assault other women or children are imprisoned - also in the men's prison?

Nice "logic" pretzel you twisted into being just there. LOL
Didn't have to "twist" anything - just pointed out the facts. The trans rapist's place of incarceration had nothing to do with a law that's never been in effect, nor was it a decision made by Sturgeon personally. There's a prison service who make that decision, and a Justice Secretary who oversees it.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - John - 10-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 06:05 AM)Jasper Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 04:25 AM)Heinrich Wrote: Not loving this hard swing to fascism most white European-descended folk are favoring. Macron is barely hanging on and now we're losing Nicola. Then over here we're banning abortions and even miscarriage and drag and trans people. Fucking sucks.

Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

How was Sturgeon responsible for the trans prisoner controversy manufactured by the hard right? Because it's not down to the law she championed since it's not, you know, the law without royal assent. 

I'm also curious where you imagine cis women who assault other women or children are imprisoned - also in the men's prison?
How did such gibberish get 6 likes? Hilarious even if a woman killed the Paddington Bear she should still go to a women's prison. Never said women's prisons were for nice people anyway. 

Heinrich had likely discovered Nicola Sturgeon because of the trans rapist drug fuelled episode of hers. Scottish independence isn't going to attract LGBT fans from another country.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - jdcyl - 10-03-2023

Sturgeon has appeared in TV news stories here on this side of the pond since well before Brexit. Scottish nationalist party wins big in elections -> pundits talk about what might that mean for Scottish independence. It’s kinda obvious. The same line of talk was followed with the Brexit result: Scotland voting to remain when non-urban England voted for Brexit. Then again with Nicola Sturgeon’s announcements regarding Covid contrasting with Boris Johnson’s.

What hasn’t gotten coverage is ‘rapist drug fuelled’ episode.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Jasper - 11-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 01:48 PM)John Wrote:
(04-03-2023, 06:05 AM)Jasper Wrote:
(28-02-2023, 12:22 PM)John Wrote: Did you even know who Nicola Sturgeon was pre trans rapist in a women's prison drug fuelled  episode of hers?

How was Sturgeon responsible for the trans prisoner controversy manufactured by the hard right? Because it's not down to the law she championed since it's not, you know, the law without royal assent. 

I'm also curious where you imagine cis women who assault other women or children are imprisoned - also in the men's prison?
How did such gibberish get 6 likes? Hilarious even if a woman killed the Paddington Bear she should still go to a women's prison. Never said women's prisons were for nice people anyway. 

Heinrich had likely discovered Nicola Sturgeon because of the trans rapist drug fuelled episode of hers. Scottish independence isn't going to attract LGBT fans from another country.

If you have an evidence-based argument, make it. Trying to create a tenuous link between Sturgeon and an unsubstantiated, disproven smear doesn't count.

Ever thought perhaps that's why your comment has zero likes?

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Barry - 18-03-2023

I resigned my membership following the treatment of Joanna Cherry . The whole self ID debacle has been a mess of Sturgeons own making and she only has herself to blame, in terms of the current leadership I hope Ash wins but I see either Kate or Humza getting in. The party needs to spend some time in opposition and the current implosion is the best thing for it.

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Jasper - 27-03-2023

Humza Yousaf has won the election to become the SNP's next leader, but by only a slim majority of 52% (on second preferences). I guess the SNP is not nearly as progressive as it makes itself out to be if Scotland was only 200+ votes away from getting the candidate whose social positions are further to the right than the Tories.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65086551

RE: Scottish First Minister race - ladsnet - 27-03-2023

But of course the right think that a 52/48 win is a landslide

RE: Scottish First Minister race - Kernow - 28-03-2023

(27-03-2023, 10:47 PM)ladsnet Wrote: But of course the right think that a 52/48 win is a landslide

Haha yeah that’s true! 

Does anyone else find it tiring that our parliamentarians don’t seem to understand we elect a party not a prime minister, so why were the SNP saying Rishi doesn’t have a mandate since taking over. Surely they are now in the same situation?